New unit at the .com: Huscarls

**Kraxis** · 04-08-2006, 01:54

It is funny that such an axe has never been used in Denmark for war.

There is a reason there is a weapon called the 'danish' axe... why on Earth not use it? Or the 'bearded' axe??? They had it quite well done for the pictures of the units in VI (or even the Viking in MTW).

Well, I just don't like him very much. Nothing with him tells me he is a Huscarl, just and armoured man with an axe and a small shield.

This is not nitpicking, this is downright out of the question. This man is NOT a huscarl.

**Divinus Arma** · 04-08-2006, 07:13

Originally Posted by Kraxis

This man is NOT a huscarl.

Then show us one.

I like this one. My fave so far. I think the "pretty factor" is astounding but I am most considered about gameplay. Improving seige balance is probably my biggest concern. In RTW it was nearly impossible to lose a seige when defending. On the attack it was also far too easy because the AI units acted with no regard to their own safety. Not even basic strategy. Major immersion and fun killer.

New pic at the com:

**The_Doctor** · 04-08-2006, 11:05

Then show us one.

http://www.regia.org/huscarl.htm

**Dooz** · 04-08-2006, 11:15

Maybe some of the other models will have that look. In any case, I still love the unit.

Divinus, there's a whole topic about that pic here somewhere. Plenty of similar discussions about that unit with it's bulky lance and whatnot. Ah, humanity. How predictable.

**Furious Mental** · 04-08-2006, 15:36

A Danish axe and/ or a great big kite shield would go down a treat. Hopefully they will be able to form a shield wall. Also a mercenary unit would be good.

**Darren_Shan** · 04-08-2006, 17:05

wow those cav look great!

**Kraxis** · 04-08-2006, 19:24

Originally Posted by Furious Mental

A Danish axe and/ or a great big kite shield would go down a treat. Hopefully they will be able to form a shield wall. Also a mercenary unit would be good.

A shieldwall with those shields? You have got to be kidding me.

I'm glad that you guys like this unit, but I don't. I would prefer if he was called Armoured Axeman since he seems to be in line with the Swordsman.

A Huscarl was the supreme warrior of the king (of course the king's bodyguards might be better). There is no chance he would be without a proper helmet or a big shield (round or kite). This man is an odd mix of a lower level warrior and a nobleman. The hauberk is noble but the rest is lower level.

The axe is as I said very odd, such an axe was just not used. Why not use the plethora of axes that were used instead of making up an axe that just looks foolish? Bah!

The shield... Ahhh... The simple fact is that the shield was considered the most important piece of equipment if you had it all (of course it wouldn't help you much if you had no weapon). Without the big shield you couldn't form the shield wall, which was the main formation. Individual fighting (in battle) was, as always rather unlikely, when it happened it was mainly done with twohanded axes.
This man can't enter a shield wall because his shield is too small to offer enough protection when it is immobile, and his axe is simply too small to offer him any advantage in a fight.

Give him a bow and sling the shield onto his back and I might be willing to accept him as some sort of Royal Archer.

**Orda Khan** · 04-08-2006, 20:22

Originally Posted by Kraxis

A shieldwall with those shields? You have got to be kidding me.

I'm glad that you guys like this unit, but I don't. I would prefer if he was called Armoured Axeman since he seems to be in line with the Swordsman.

A Huscarl was the supreme warrior of the king (of course the king's bodyguards might be better). There is no chance he would be without a proper helmet or a big shield (round or kite). This man is an odd mix of a lower level warrior and a nobleman. The hauberk is noble but the rest is lower level.

The axe is as I said very odd, such an axe was just not used. Why not use the plethora of axes that were used instead of making up an axe that just looks foolish? Bah!

The shield... Ahhh... The simple fact is that the shield was considered the most important piece of equipment if you had it all (of course it wouldn't help you much if you had no weapon). Without the big shield you couldn't form the shield wall, which was the main formation. Individual fighting (in battle) was, as always rather unlikely, when it happened it was mainly done with twohanded axes.
This man can't enter a shield wall because his shield is too small to offer enough protection when it is immobile, and his axe is simply too small to offer him any advantage in a fight.

Give him a bow and sling the shield onto his back and I might be willing to accept him as some sort of Royal Archer.

Ditto

......Orda