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    Default Re: What if WW2 ended earlier?

    A Whole host of factors prevented an attack in the West, Chamberlain's leadership was only one such factor. As noted above, nether Army was ready for offensive operations until early 1940, by which time numerous German forces had shifted back to the West.

    However, if [and a might big one it is] they had somehow managed an attack through Luxembourg and punched into the Rhineland, Germany would have been in a bad way initially, but the Allies lacked the armored formations and doctrine to make a truly decisive blow. Germany's blitzkreig tactics would have been just as difficult to stop when used as a counter attack tool, but the Allies would have had the Rhine as a fallback. Probably a stalemate at the Rhine with Germany industrializing/war focusing earlier but a somewhat more resilient French army facing them.

    Some interesting shifts, since the Norwegian campaign probably doesn't occur in this scenario, but the Italians would have been bound by treaty to come in in support of the Reich -- and would do so with a greater proportion of England's air forces (and ground?) committed to the Rhineland campaign.
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    Default Re: What if WW2 ended earlier?

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
    A Whole host of factors prevented an attack in the West, Chamberlain's leadership was only one such factor. As noted above, nether Army was ready for offensive operations until early 1940, by which time numerous German forces had shifted back to the West.
    Sorry, I lack an edit button at the moment. Nether should read neither and I am referring to the French army and the BEF.
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    Default Re: What if WW2 ended earlier?

    I'm not convinced that the world, as a whole, was ready to deal with Hitler until he caused enough grief to make it obvious that something needed to be done. The world simply was unprepared for another massive war. Britain, France and the U.S. along with many other countries were still suffering the lingering psychological effects of WWI. It affected everything. Remember that it took a direct attack on the U.S. to bring the U.S. into the war. Poland, Norway, the Low Countries, France and even the Battle of Britain weren't enough to convince Americans to fight Hitler. Even with existing treaties, I don't think the real public (as opposed to political) will to fight Hitler existed until after Dunkerque, and in the case of America, not until after Pearl Harbor. Ribbentrop-Molotov could have been printed in full with all details known and distributed to newspapers world-wide, with a picture included of Hitler proclaiming himself the future ruler of the entire world, and it wouldn't have stirred up enough people to make a difference.
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    Default Re: What if WW2 ended earlier?

    Another thing was that Britain feared the communists more than the Fascits and hoped that hitler would attack then but instad signed a teaty with Stalin. They thought maybe they would build up first but then hwe invaded Poland so The Allies had to back up their promises to Poland even though they realisticlly couldn't

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