Make the Romani even more realistic - Heavy infantry from Roma only.

[Dayve]

I did this in RTR back when i still played it before EB was released but could never quite get it right - I'm sure you brainboxes can make it work properly though.

Make the city of Roma a hidden resource, then give the early Roman heavy infantry the "hidden_recsource_Roma" thing (i forget if that's actually it since it was a while ago since i did any text file editing) so that they can be recruited only in Roma... Then make the population of Roma a little higher and also the population growth a little higher, and give early hastati, principes and triarii a 0 recruitment time, which would reflect Romes ability to raise huge armies quickly even after being dealt massive defeats, but will not make it unbalanced since the units are expensive and money is tight...

Then you would have to add a script to undo this later on as Rome realistically started recruiting their heavy infantry from other cities close by... If all this is possible i don't know but i think it's a decent idea and would make the Romani even more realistic and enjoyable. (If that's possible!)

[QwertyMIDX]

By 272 the Romans were already recruiting troops from its allies that fought in the roman manner and the Ager Romanus had already extended to cover lots of land in central Italy. Hence those intial provinces being able to train roman troops.

[cunctator]

Something like that is easily possible, but besides that 0 recruitment time would screw up the whole system it would not be entirely correct.

The early roman units are already limited to their historic recruitment area. At this time they did not all come from Roma itself, but also from colonies founded during the previous century and other towns with citizen rights. Also the roman units represent the troops of italian socii too, that fought in a very similiar way than the romans.

In 0.8 the recruitment area for polybian units will be enlarged to all homeland gov. provinces to represent the foundation of new colonies and recruitment from those and make roman recruitment less static the now.

[Dayve]

Then i must apologise for not doing some research before posting that! I saw a thread saying about how Rome only recruited their proper heavy infantry from Rome early in the republic and i thought they didn't start recruiting them from other cities until the first reforms where Rorari and Accensi were scrapped.

[Scott]

0 turn recurment for the triaii?I know the Roman Legionaries had 6 months of training.I'am not sure about the befroe the Marius refroms but it probally took a few months to train them

[Dayve]

True, but why only train 80 men to be hastati in one month? Wouldn't Rome or wherever they trained them have the facilities to train hundreds if not thousands?

[O'ETAIPOS]

You may think like this - 80 men in game = 800 real soliders. Lots of game limit things may be solved this way

[Ludens]

0 turn recurment for the triaii?I know the Roman Legionaries had 6 months of training.I'am not sure about the befroe the Marius refroms but it probally took a few months to train them

Imperial legionaries received a standard training, but the pre-Marian armies (and to a certain extent the armies of the late republic also) were ad-hoc things that were trained on campaign. From that point of view a 0-turn recruitment is correct. However, since it did took some time for an army to reach full-combat proficiency I guess a recruitment delay is reasonable option. Certainly, Triarii would not need much training: they were already the most experienced troops of the legion.

[QwertyMIDX]

The RTW recruitment system just isn't designed in a way that would allow us to present proper ancient armies, it's a real bummer but that's just the way it is.