MP faction

[FearofNC]

its not as simple as playing the french vs french.. or rome vs rome...

balance is not just being able to choose the same faction... its true balance between the units and their roles. the rock paper scissors factor that this game is moving away from is the heart of what made the battles special for me in stw.

a regular faction like rome or france cannot be balanced for optimal online play because of sp reasons.. and i fully understand that sp is the more popular side of the tw series.

the concern of using a valueable faction slot is mute. the game supports the addition of several new factions. this is a built in feature for modders. this idea will take nothing away from sp.

making this online mode the only one available for play is not what my idea is about.. i want to play with all the factions from mtw2 just like the next person.. this would just be an additional option in mp... and imho once players who have never experienced the old stlye of stw mp try this setup it will quickly become the most popular mp game played.

[Darren_Shan]

lol in rtw ppl stuck to plaiyng rome vs rome

it will always be:

strongest faction vs strongest faction

u cant change this

and even if CA agrees im pretty sure ppl will find the best way to own others.. the "others" willa dopt that tactic.. so we will come back to:

strongest faction vs strongest faction

[Orda Khan]

lol in rtw ppl stuck to plaiyng rome vs rome

it will always be:

strongest faction vs strongest faction

u cant change this

and even if CA agrees im pretty sure ppl will find the best way to own others.. the "others" willa dopt that tactic.. so we will come back to:

strongest faction vs strongest faction

You obviously have no idea what NC is talking about. There was NO strongest faction in STW because all factions had the same unit choice and these units were designed in a way that countered other units....aka rock, paper, scissors.
Maybe people did 'stick to Rome v Rome' in RTW, what does that tell you about faction balance? Perhaps you should take a look at STW, you can pick STW/WE up quite cheap in the bargain bin and it is still being played over a fakeserver.
Oh and by the way, you will find that the only way to 'own' at STW is to adopt superior tactics, something that cannot be said about RTW

.......Orda

[Darren_Shan]

no actually i played STW and i was great there.. but got bored of this hilarious thing that u have the same units

(btw i was talking about rtw)

but rtw is much more tactical.. iv seen ppls who mastered the selucids egyptians and owned rome in no time (i mastered brits)

and remember Rome HAS the same units :D

[FearofNC]

but rtw is much more tactical.. iv seen ppls who mastered the selucids egyptians and owned rome in no time (i mastered brits)

and remember Rome HAS the same units :D

battlefield tatics and knowing how to use units properly are 2 seperate things... an echlon attack in rtw is suicide for example... the bull horn manuver is equally as ineffective... these are tatics..

war elephants, chariots, pila throwing tanks and other uber units require no skill to use.. just the knowlage of how they work.... to say rtw is more tatical than stw is simply inccorrect.

besides... there are people who want and would enjoy this mp faction option... can anyone think of a good reason it shouldnt be included???

just saying "play french vs french" is not a reason.. nobody is asking for the other factions to not be included... besides... i could take a single unit of chiv knights and run over 3 spear units at the same time ... france still had the inherient imbalance the entire game had..

[Lusted]

I can think of a reason, Ca would have to add in a new faction, and balance it entirely sepearately from all the other factions. How about we just wait and see how well MIITW is balanced?

[Furious Mental]

If you want to make sure that tactics are decisive in an RTW multiplayer game then just use the same faction and the same or nearly similar armies.

[FearofNC]

I can think of a reason, Ca would have to add in a new faction, and balance it entirely sepearately from all the other factions. How about we just wait and see how well MIITW is balanced?

this would take 2 people 1 day of work... the stats have already been balanced with stw1.03.. graphics wise you would need 1 custom image to put on the banners and faction selection screen.

mtw2 will be balanced.. im sure of that... knights will take 2 turns to produce and their upkeep rates will balance them against weak spear units. this however means nothing when you play online. mtw2 nor any verion of tw will be balanced online.. simply impossible when sp and mp stats are the same.

If you want to make sure that tactics are decisive in an RTW multiplayer game then just use the same faction and the same or nearly similar armies.

plz read above again... its not that simple... faction vs faction is not balanced taticly if the factions themselves arent balanced to begin with. trust those that were there.. ive played tw for 6 years now.. why would i lie to you about this? im not asking for samurai units cause i miss the stw era.. (although that would be icing on the cake) just the stats used in that version.. dont knock it till you try it :)