Poor Old Turks

[bamff]

Seems to me that no matter what else is going on in MTW (Vanilla), that the Turks are almost invariably the first AI faction to fall.

I suppose that the starting position isn't the easiest, but still, I thought AI could sort it...

My current campaign (As Italy) is the longest that I have seen the Turks hang around...by 1130 they had taken Constantinople (which worked well, because as the Byzantines dissolved into civil war, my troops swept in through Serbia, Greece, and Bulgaria). Only 10 years passed however, and the turks were gone. They have just re-emerged in 1145....be nice if they stuck around this time, just for variety.

[Csargo]

You know your right I never noticed before but they dont all I ever see is Egypt down in the Middle East.

[Barbarossa1221]

Ya turks really cant stick it for long, usually because of either Byzantines or Egypt who are fairly well off.
Turkey usually doesnt build a strong navy and its initial armies are lackluster with generals who have low loyalty.
And then the Golden Horde comes in and makes things even worse.
Ya the AI doesnt do em justice.

[Papewaio]

Which makes them one of my favorite factions to play as they are a decent challenge.

[Peasant Phill]

I have seen the Turks become the biggest power in the world on several occasions. This happens when the Egyptians ally with them and they defeat the Byz. Once they own the steppes there is no stopping them.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Yes, the Byz are the main problem for the Turks. On-on-one, the Byz always seem to defeat the Turks. But if any third power manages to break Byzantium the Turks can be surprisingly good at establishing themselves as the major eastern power in their place.

I love to play them, challenging starting position, fantastic unit roster.