Poor Old Turks

**bamff** · 04-24-2006, 02:59

Well there you go, nursed the Turks through, kept the Eggies and Byz off their backs, and what happens?

They attack me!

So I am forced to wipe them out after getting them all the way through to 1255....bugger!

**LadyAnn** · 04-24-2006, 03:51

Turks are fun to play with :)

Annie

**bamff** · 04-26-2006, 00:26

Hey Annie, welcome to the Org!

You're not the first to mention that the Turks are fun to play - I really will have to give them a go!

**vonsch** · 04-26-2006, 15:41

Turks have horse archers too, right? When I get around to finishing my campaign as the Portugee (or decide I'm just into the long grind after the dicey interesting parts are done), I may have to try them. I don't remember trying them so far. I do remember kicking them around as Egypt though. I pushed them back into one province and wanted to turn my attention to the Bizzies and they would NOT make peace. Silly, obstinate DEAD Turks.

**Alexios** · 04-26-2006, 22:22

I'm playing MTW (Vanilla) and the year is 1238 and the Turks are still hanging in there. However, I think they're about to become extinct at the hands of The GH. I hope not though, because I was hoping the GH would balance the power a little bit by ignoring the Turks while kicking some serious Byzantine butt.

Anyway, in most of the MTW campaigns I play in Early, it seems the Aragonians are the first to go. They usually get swallowed-up pretty fast by the French or Spanish.

**bamff** · 04-26-2006, 23:51

Agreed Alexios, they also traditionally disappear pretty early on as well...In games I have played, the Aragonese generally seem to suddenly get weirdly aggressive with the English, French, or Spaniards, and then suffer the consequences.....as you do....as I've said in another thread, I'd love to see the AI get more sensible about this - when you are small you need to make alliances, NOT launch suicidal invasions of large neighbours!

**vonsch** · 04-27-2006, 00:18

Originally Posted by bamff

I'd love to see the AI get more sensible about this - when you are small you need to make alliances, NOT launch suicidal invasions of large neighbours!

But, but... the only way to start with some smaller factions is exactly that! In my Portugee campaign I had to go straight for Spain or risk being stifled by them or the Almohads.

I suppose the AI can't hald the delicate juggling act though. We human player try to pick ONE enemy at a time in that situation, and the AI tends to pick 3 of 3. Two alliances and an invasion is the way to go (if you can pull it off).