That's right 'flag', it is not the Union Jack.
Union 'Flag'
400 years old.
Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
That's right 'flag', it is not the Union Jack.
Union 'Flag'
400 years old.
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Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
I was upset to see the BBC cannot decide between "Jack" and "Flag". I thought everyone knew the difference... but apparently not those at Shepherd's Bush...
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Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
Nifty little flag, it would have been interesting now if the welsh dragon would have been incorporated too.
Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
I think if you did want a Welsh presence, the St. David's Cross would be better.
Lots of rather unpleasant nationalism in the comments for that article.
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Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
That's because the only flag they salute is the red flag of proletarian revolution...Originally Posted by Duke Malcolm
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Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
I couldn't see any, did they get deleted?
I saw Welsh people complain about no Welsh representation on the flag and various non-English people say that they felt it did not represent them.
The worst I saw in the way of unpeasantness was an English man who lives in the U.S. and makes sure to fly the union flag on 4th July and that really wasn't too bad.
Re : Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
Gah, even foreigners know that the principality of Wales was already united with England and therefore didn't have it's flag represented seperately on the union flag. The kingdom of England and Wales formed a union with Scotland, and later Ireland.
One thing has always puzzled me to no end though: why oh why is St. Patricks cross skewed on the union flag?
(Assuming the Irish cross is St. Patricks, and that on its own it forms a proper cross)
edit: oops, union flag, not jack.
Last edited by Louis VI the Fat; 04-10-2006 at 19:49.
Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
double post
Last edited by ShadesPanther; 04-10-2006 at 19:59.
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Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
this is the st. patricks cross
http://www.anbg.gov.au/images/flags/...icks-cross.gif
edit: since its so freaking huge i'll make it a link
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More to the point, why is the cross of St Patrick (the saltire) still on the union flag when the Republic of Ireland is no longer part of the union?
(The flag of Ulster, as you can see in ShadesPanther's sig, is the St George cross with a red hand + not x ).
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Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
You know, I always thought that the cross of St. David was on the Union Flag. I used to think that it was a red saltire on a white background.
Then a nice chap I met in Greece explained to me that it wasn't. He was, of course, a Welshman. Had a few great sessions with him.
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There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
Wouldn't it be a good idea if this was the case? Then the Welsh would be part of the flag and the Irish not - like it should be
Can saints swap flags?
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Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
Well obviously it represents Northern Ireland, which is still part of the UK. It would not make sense to replace St Patrick's cross with the Ulster flag: whilst the six counties are not the whole of Ireland, neither are they the whole of Ulster.More to the point, why is the cross of St Patrick (the saltire) still on the union flag when the Republic of Ireland is no longer part of the union?
(The flag of Ulster, as you can see in ShadesPanther's sig, is the St George cross with a red hand + not x ).
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Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
I always found this version of the Union Flag rather amusing - as you might be able to guess it's a Scottish protest at the fact that the cross of St George came on top of the cross of St Andrew.
Anyway
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Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
I know. I was just teasing
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Re: Happy Birthday Union 'Flag'
I knew you were teasing: I was just making sure you knew that Ulster and Northern Ireland are not identical.I know. I was just teasing
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