Character Age, Detecting Settlement Captures

**Atilius** · 04-11-2006, 05:09

I've been experimenting with a couple of things lately but haven't had much success getting them to work. I wonder if anyone has any ideas:

Character Age
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I'd like to be able to assign a trait to a character when he reaches a certain age. The problem is that I don't see any way of determining how old he is. I can imagine keeping track of age with an age trait, but this will only work for characters who enter the game at age 16. Adoptees and sons-in-law can enter the game at just about any age from 16 on up.

Settlement Capture
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I'd like to have a background script do something to any settlement that changes ownership. The problem here is determining when a settlement changes hands. There are events which are sometimes triggered when this happens: sacking, enslavement, extermination. But (I think) some of these require a character to be present and not all of them export the settlement name. In addition none of those events apply to a simple capture and occupation. Anyone have an idea as to how this might be done?

**nikolai1962** · 04-12-2006, 18:25

I tried to get an age myself once for a roman career thing but could never see how to do it. Character records are passed to a lot of triggers and age must be one of the attributes a general has but i never managed to get the syntax for it (if it is possible at all).

I don't know much about scripting but i'd suggest d/ling some mods with scripts and seeing what they've done.

**Malrubius** · 04-12-2006, 19:48

I had no luck trying to figure out the age of generals, myself, unless they passed through the CharacterComesOfAge event. If anybody's had any luck, let me know.

**nikolai1962** · 04-15-2006, 00:14

Someone on a thread somewhere mentioned they saw a CharacterName being referenced in a CA thing. I can't recall if it was a script or a trait/advice/ancillary trigger. It made me think CharacterAge might be the attribute to check for but i think i tried this way back before i gave up. I didn't really know what i was doing though. So many of the triggers seem to get passed a character record you'd think it would be in there somewhere as an attribute or something.

**Atilius** · 04-15-2006, 23:56

I appreciate your responses guys, and thought I ought to get back to you.

Originally Posted by nikolai1962

I tried to get an age myself once for a roman career thing but could never see how to do it.

Yes, exactly what I had in mind. Did you find another way to go about it?

Originally Posted by nikolai1962

It made me think CharacterAge might be the attribute to check

I fiddled around with this suggestion of yours but had no luck; thanks though.

Originally Posted by malrubius

I had no luck trying to figure out the age of generals, myself, unless they passed through the CharacterComesOfAge event. If anybody's had any luck, let me know.

I'll do that if I figure something out, but that's not looking very likely right now. I second your

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I did make some progress on the settlement capture issue, though I don't know if it's of interest to you. It turns out that the GeneralCaptureSettlement event fires even if the stack that captures the settlement is commanded by a captain. So it appears that every time a settlement changes hands there should be a GeneralCaptureSettlement or CityRebels event.

**Modding Forum** · 04-16-2006, 16:37

If it existed then it should be documented in the docudemon files - but I've been through them pretty thoroughly and there's no mention of it.

**Atilius** · 04-16-2006, 17:31

Originally Posted by RTW Modding Forum

If it existed then it should be documented in the docudemon files - but I've been through them pretty thoroughly and there's no mention of it.

You are correct RTWMF. I have been through the docudemon files many times also and haven't found what I'm looking for. But, having perpetrated a few of them myself (intentionally and otherwise), I know that there are always backdoors, hacks, and undocumented features.

**nikolai1962** · 04-17-2006, 10:45

Originally Posted by nikolai1962
I tried to get an age myself once for a roman career thing but could never see how to do it.

Yes, exactly what I had in mind. Did you find another way to go about it?

No i gave up as it was too annoying having 60 year old adoptees with "this man has just started out on the cursus honorarum" trait :)

Other people have done more. I think the TFT mod has a very detailed system and i think EB does too. Have a look through their code maybe?

**Stuie** · 04-20-2006, 13:27

Originally Posted by nikolai1962

No i gave up as it was too annoying having 60 year old adoptees with "this man has just started out on the cursus honorarum" trait :)

Other people have done more. I think the TFT mod has a very detailed system...

Our (TFT that is) system does not capture age for adoptees - rank is determined for adoptees based on the traits of the adoptive father. So your 60 year old adoptee would gain a social class equivalent to his father.

**Avicenna** · 04-20-2006, 18:12

There should be a way of determining the age though, since the portraits can tell the age: they automatically get older when the character turns 50. If you could that trigger it might be able to do what you want.

**nikolai1962** · 04-21-2006, 04:51

Originally Posted by Stuie

Our (TFT that is) system does not capture age for adoptees - rank is determined for adoptees based on the traits of the adoptive father. So your 60 year old adoptee would gain a social class equivalent to his father.

Clever.

There should be a way of determining the age though

Yes, there should :)