Woodrow Wilson ...
Not really rational, my first ever thesis written was on his points and the League of Nations, so I just like him.
That and he was a bit of a pacifist, only going to war when he had to.
Woodrow Wilson ...
Not really rational, my first ever thesis written was on his points and the League of Nations, so I just like him.
That and he was a bit of a pacifist, only going to war when he had to.
Err...
Wrong forum perhaps?
Anyways, Wilson wanted to get into the war, the only problem was he had to convince the American public, which was rather easily done considering the Germans were sinking British ships that had a fair number of American civilians on board.
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Well sorta, but the Zimmerman Telegram really swung it.nyways, Wilson wanted to get into the war, the only problem was he had to convince the American public, which was rather easily done considering the Germans were sinking British ships that had a fair number of American civilians on board.
As for favourite President....
Freddy Roosevelt I guess but it's close
"A man may fight for many things: his country, his principles, his friends, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mudwrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a stack of French porn."
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To quote Gigagia, SCC:
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Freddy? I've never heard of FDR being referred to as such before. Or are you talking about Teddy, Theodore Roosevelt?Originally Posted by ShadesPanther
Theodore! He's my favorite. A real socialist who put the leashes on the trusts, was one of the ealy conservationists, and yet also reaffirmed the Monroe doctrine, and set America on the road to imperialism, bigtime. We lost that later, when we stopped focusing on the idea of being a true emire, and instead propped ourselved up on the pretentious pedestal of "world peacekeeper". Teddy was also a monster of a man, figuratively speaking; he was a latter-day renaissance man, keeping active and vigorous into his later years, before his expedition into the Amazon basin shortened his life so severely.Originally Posted by AntiochusIII
The Great White Fleet, anyone?
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Abraham Lincoln.
Written shortly after the victories at Gettysburg and Vicksburg in the summer of 1863:
His sense of the sublime was matched by his appreciation of the ridiculous:Peace does not appear so distant as it did. I hope it will come soon, and come to stay, and so come as to be worth the keeping in all future time. It will then be proved that among free men there can be no successful appeal from the ballot to the bullet, and that they who take such appeal are sure to lose their case and pay the cost. And then there will be some black men who can remember that, with silent tongue and clenched teeth and steady eye and well-poised bayonet, they have helped mankind on to this great consummation, while I fear there will be some white ones unable to forget that, with malignant heart and deceitful speech, they have strove to hinder it.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
The truth is the most valuable thing we have. Let us economize it. - Mark Twain
my favorite president would have to be for teddy.
"Anyone who has ever looked into the glazed eyes of a soldier dying on the
battlefield will think hard before starting a war."
-Otto Von Bismarck
Definately Abraham Lincoln. I don't know of any other President, except FDR perhaps, who was more eloquent, longsuffering, and steadfast to his obligation to the United States. He could say more in one paragraph than a multitude of books could convey. We could sure use someone of his character in the white house now. Our debt to him is immense, for only he could envision the final victory and national reconciliation following the War between the States.
PS: @evil maniac from mars- I've heard it said...George W. Bush is analogous to a mail clerk who somehow became the CEO of a major corporation, who should have never left the mail room. As for me I would vote for PM Tony Blair before I would for George W. Bush.....no offense intended to our British or European freinds out there.
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Onasander...the general must neither be so undecided that he entirely distrusts himself, nor so obstinate as not to think that anyone can have a better idea...for such a man...is bound to make many costly mistakes
Editing my posts due to poor typing and grammer is a way of life.
Reagan.
Why do you hate Freedom?
The US is marching backward to the values of Michael Stivic.
I meant TeddyOriginally Posted by AntiochusIII
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"A man may fight for many things: his country, his principles, his friends, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mudwrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a stack of French porn."
- Edmund Blackadder
I liked TR too, but I'm going to have to take issue with Zorba on defining TR as a Socialist. He actually limited the power of unions as much as any corporation. Despite TR's shameless self-promotion in this area, the true "Trust-buster" was his handpicked successor, WH Taft.
TR didn't believe in price controls, unemployment, welfare, abortion (yes, it was an issue, even back then), universal suffrage or any of the other left issues of his day. Calling him a socialist... well, I suppose you can define the term 'socialist' as you see fit Zorba. You're the first I personally have ever seen use the term in this setting. Populist, sure. But Socialist?... Hmmm....
"A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.
"Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
Strike for the South
Well, they say bigger is better so I’ll vote for Taft.
But honestly Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose boldness has always had a real appeal to me (perhaps because we haven’t had a president like that since). I’ll also give props to Ronald Reagan, who I think really helped to shape the US into what it is today.
Peace in Europe will never stay, because I play Medieval II Total War every day. ~YesDachi
Robert E LeeLBJ. IVE BEEN TO HIS HOUSE!
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
You obviously didn't learn much about him in that exercise then.Originally Posted by Keba
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