Ronald Reagan.
Ronald Reagan.
ummm.... Carter.
nah. Good Ol' Abe, and then the darkhorse Nixon.
Lincoln
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"We are lovers of beauty without extravagance and of learning without loss of vigor." -Thucydides
"The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom, Courage." -Thucydides
LBJ
Sure Vietnam was all f’d-up but he LBJ gets too much blame (while JFK and Ike get off much too lightly); but had the guts too really attack poverty and discrimination something JFK failed to do and unlike some presidents also paid for his war with a tax surcharge.
'One day when I fly with my hands -
up down the sky,
like a bird'
I beg your pardon? If you recon that a Tennessean is not an American (at least a North American), than you might want to check your geography.Originally Posted by Csar
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Onasander...the general must neither be so undecided that he entirely distrusts himself, nor so obstinate as not to think that anyone can have a better idea...for such a man...is bound to make many costly mistakes
Editing my posts due to poor typing and grammer is a way of life.
It's funny how all the rightwingers who like Teddy "take issue" with my calling him a socialist.
Well, maybe it isn't the best term, but he did move a lot further left than his fellow Republicans. And notice I never said "trust-buster"- I know he never tried to break up trusts, he just restrained them in the name of a more fair economy.
...All right, I guess he is more of a populist.
Damn... I was going to congratulate you on your bravery.Originally Posted by Wakizashi
Hes from Texas. The best state ever.Originally Posted by rotorgun
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Just more fuel for the debate:
Found these quotes by George Washington and thought it was amusing:
"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality."
"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
"I despise people who go to the gutter on either the right or the left and hurl rocks at those in the center."
"Over grown military establishments are under any form of government inauspicious to liberty, and are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty."
"The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian doctrine." (I just threw that one in there, and can add Jefferson and Madison quotes as needed, for those who still claim that the Founding Fathers created a Christian nation)
"It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it."
"Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness."
An uncommonly moral man who derived his morality from the Enlightenment of reason. A man who exercised power while recognizing and fearing its tendencies to abuse. While everyone has faults, and Washington as much as the rest of us, he was more free of them by virtue of his desire to recognize them than most of us.
"Dee dee dee!" - Annoymous (the "differently challenged" and much funnier twin of Anonymous)
The first one sounds like George -- it has his very deliberate tone.Originally Posted by Aenlic
The second one is a famous gibe by H.L. Mencken, whose ascerbic assessments of US politics are still valid in most instances, but it is NOT by Washington.
The last one is, obviously, about and not by Washington.
Did you mis-label your intent? Were these really quotes relating to Washington's anti-party, personal responsibility attitude?
Mencken is a blast.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Oops, nice catch. I should proof my posts; but rarely bother. Actually, the second one is Will Rogers, not H. L. Mencken. It slipped itself in there while I was cutting and pasting the Washington quotes into a list I keep of favorite quotes. I agree about Mencken, though. And Will Rogers too, for that matter. Men of rare and seemingly boundless wit.Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
The last quote is indeed Washington. Or are you mistaking my comment at the end, the one not in quotes, as a quote?
"Dee dee dee!" - Annoymous (the "differently challenged" and much funnier twin of Anonymous)
There was a time when being liberal or even a democrat wasn’t a bad thing.Originally Posted by Aenlic
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Peace in Europe will never stay, because I play Medieval II Total War every day. ~YesDachi
Probably.Originally Posted by Aenlic
I've always loved Rogers and Mencken (and enjoy Mark Russell as well). If you can't have a good laugh at the expense of your politicians, you really are desperately in need of a life.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Sorry bout that I misread your first postOriginally Posted by rotorgun
I keep missing Mark Russell when he does his TV show, although the songs sometimes get a little old.Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Politicians should be laughed at much more often. I love it when John McCain goes on The Daily Show. I'm not much of a McCain fan; but you have to respect a guy who doesn't take himself too seriously. It's nice to see someone who can go on that show and laugh with others at himself. Even if there might be a hint of the self-serving, let's play sax for the young crowd Clintonism in it.
There's a great quote by Lincoln about this very subject; but I'm having trouble finding it. Maybe it wasn't Lincoln. Was close. Maybe it was Grant or perhaps Jackson.
"Dee dee dee!" - Annoymous (the "differently challenged" and much funnier twin of Anonymous)
That's cool Russianstar. I call those pre-senior citizen moments myself. I have several of those per diem.Originally Posted by Russiantsar
To Strike For the South, good try! Even though a few Tennesseans helped Ya'll out at the Alamo, it doesn't quite qualify us for Texas citizenship. I do agree with you that Texas is a great State though. I sure would like to ride a good quarter horse on the Texas plains someday with the cowhands. I can sing a "purty" decent ballad and strum my "gee-tar" at the campfire to earn my keep.
While I ain't much of a George "W" fan, I did vote for his Daddy a few times. Now...he weren't too awful bad a President. If only he had never said "Read my lips...no new taxes!" I think he would have made a second term.
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Onasander...the general must neither be so undecided that he entirely distrusts himself, nor so obstinate as not to think that anyone can have a better idea...for such a man...is bound to make many costly mistakes
Editing my posts due to poor typing and grammer is a way of life.
Read my lips, you’re probably right, that was the worst thing he could have said.Originally Posted by rotorgun
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Peace in Europe will never stay, because I play Medieval II Total War every day. ~YesDachi
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