Homosexuality

[Navaros]

In my view it's mainly a matter of mankind having royally screwed up the air, food, and water supply and thusly paving the way for genomes to get severely messed up.

There is so much toxic crap in there nowadays that many are born with terrible birth defects, including the desire for "homosexuality."

[Zain]

I believe that it's a choice, with a combination of how you were raised and the environment you were born and raised in. But mostly it's a choice, I chose to like woman because I know that that's the way it's supposed to be, looking down the physical way.

I could just as easily like men, if I wanted to, but I'm not going to because homosexuality is am obstruction of God's plan for humanity.

-ZainDustin

[Mithrandir]

I believe that it's a choice, with a combination of how you were raised and the environment you were born and raised in.
-ZainDustin

How do you explain the Iranian men who knew they would be hung when their sexual preference would be discovered? (And it happened).

But mostly it's a choice,

I think the only choice is wether to come out or not.

[Viking]

It`s physical. I believe scientific studies agree with that.
Well, you could say it`s mental, of course, but mentality has roots in the physical..

[Bar Kochba]

in my personal Opioinon the cause of homosexuality is










GAH!!!

[orangat]

It`s physical. I believe scientific studies agree with that.
Well, you could say it`s mental, of course, but mentality has roots in the physical..

If it was already proven that being gay is physically hardwired in genes, then there would be no need to discuss this topic furthur. There is no evidence of of a gay gene, the results of the xp28 study is challenged by similar studies.

I believe that it's a choice, with a combination of how you were raised and the environment you were born and raised in. But mostly it's a choice, I chose to like woman because I know that that's the way its supposed to be, looking down the physical way.

I could just as easily like men, if I wanted to, but I'm not going to because homosexuality is am obstruction of God's plan for humanity.
-ZainDustin

Really? Then I'd like to know gods plan for people born intersexed? Approximately 1% of newborns are 'atypical' - link.

[Viking]

If it was already proven that being gay is physically hardwired in genes, then there would be no need to discuss this topic furthur. There is no evidence of of a gay gene, the results of the xp28 study is challenged by similar studies.

I didn`t say that they concluded, I said that they agreed.

[Kanamori]

If one means practicing homosexuality, it seems to be choice which determines whether one practices or not. If one means who one is attracted to, I would say a myriad of factors that would probably not be characterized by choice. That said, at the risk of overreacting, I think there is often a disturbing obsession with finding and labeling gay people, and thinking about it all the time. Some people, I think, spend more time worrying about who is gay, and what's gay, than homosexuals looking for a gay partner do. Frankly, those people that seem to spend all of their time thinking about 'gay' people are a bit weird. To practice homosexuality is a personal choice, and it is clearly a choice they should be free to make. Personally, I very much liked how homosexuals were quite free to be homosexuals in Britain, relatively free of prejudice. I met a few gay politicians and partners. They could be openly gay, and nobody cared; the way it should be.

[Quietus]

'Other'. It can't be said that if it is just genetic, psychological or a combination of both.

[orangat]

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[Lemur]

I believe that it's a choice.

So can you tell us when, exactly, you chose to be attracted to women? Can you recall the day when you weighed the decision, saying to yourself, "Hot leathermen or cheerleaders? Which shall it be?"

[The_Doctor]

A more interesting question would be:

What causes homosexuality in animals?

Answering that question should answer the first question.

Or an even harder question:

What doesn't cause homosexuality in humans/animals?

[Redleg]

A combination of factors - its interesting to note that those who study behavioral sciences and mental health have yet to agree on what causes homosexual behavior.

It could be the environment of the society involved
It could be a hormone imbalance
It could be just a matter of choice.

Some would espouse that its genetic - which is about the only cause of homosexuality that I would disagree with

It could be a combination of all of the above.

[Kralizec]

It could be a combination of all of the above.

And different people might become homosexual for different reasons.

[Kraxis]

Since certain twins (one part of the pair) can be acertained to be homosexuals even from early years, it seems to be quite a difficult matter.

At that age children do not have any incentive to make a choice (as if you can chose who you are attracted to ), yet there is little you can say about it. Upbringing doesn't seem to affect that since twins are treated equally to a great extent. Hormones in the womb should be equal as well, but we can't know for sure though. Genes are the same.

So we end up with a situation where we simply can't say that it is one thing or the other.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Some can get homosexual due to genes probably, because some animals are gay. But not too many, especially not for species where they get few children. It can only appear through new mutations, or in the case of humans, when homosexuals are by culture forced to live as heterosexuals, get children, and therefore reproduce despite being gay.

Some more probably get homosexual because of hormone and toxine pollution. For example, male fish living downstreams of sewers have turned into strange monsters somewhere between man and woman and something else that doesn't belong to this world because of pollution from contraceptive pills. Plasters with hormones, given to 40-60 years old women in a certain period also contribute as much as around 10 contraceptive pills to this effect - which makes it strange that EU and US government haven't forbidden them, especially when other methods of taking in the same substance are more medically useful as the dosage received through plasters are difficult to regulate properly. This has made me wonder if most EU and USA politicians perhaps might be gay, since they seem so eager to make others become gay too.

Some probably get gay because it's fashionable, much like in 19th century England, ancient Greece, etc.

Some probably get gay because they're kept from women for a very long time and only see men, and when they're in the critical age for development of "the urge" - because the urge is only halfway ready programmed in the genes - they get it wrong because of that. This applies to spartans, and it has been studied in plenty of other situations, like prisons etc.

But one would think the babe thread would cure all cases caused by the last two...

[Strike For The South]

So can you tell us when, exactly, you chose to be attracted to women? Can you recall the day when you weighed the decision, saying to yourself, "Hot leathermen or cheerleaders? Which shall it be?"

yes actually. July 14 1999 It was a tuesday IIRC. Now dont get me wrong the leatherman made a good arguement and even busted out the village people. I nesarly choose them to. Then that cheerleader did that thing with her tounge and showed what she could do with her legs. When the guy tried that he tore his hamstring and bit his tounge open

[Alexanderofmacedon]

It's a mixture between the second and third choice in my opinion...

As for Anthony...you dirty...

[Csargo]

yes actually. July 14 1999 It was a tuesday IIRC. Now dont get me wrong the leatherman made a good arguement and even busted out the village people. I nesarly choose them to. Then that cheerleader did that thing with her tounge and showed what she could do with her legs. When the guy tried that he tore his hamstring and bit his tounge open

Im pretty sure that last part makes you gay SFTS.

As too gay people they dont really bother me. I have no problem with them as long as they dont come on too me then thats too far.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Im pretty sure that last part makes you gay SFTS.

As too gay people they dont really bother me. I have no problem with them as long as they dont come on too me then thats too far.

Seconded.

[Craterus]

Most people who are/closely related to a homosexual say that it's fairly obvious from birth. They say that they always knew.

I don't think it's a matter of choice, but the upbringing could have an effect...

[Louis VI the Fat]

I have no problem with them as long as they dont come on to me

Why? I try to hit on girls without asking them if they're heterosexual first.

Your arse is fair game, mate.

[InsaneApache]

Why? I try to hit on girls without asking them if they're heterosexual first.

Your arse is fair game, mate.

Is that my new quote?

That is funny.

[Craterus]

Your arse is fair game, mate.

Awesome line...

[Lemur]

yes actually. July 14 1999 It was a tuesday IIRC. Now dont get me wrong the leatherman made a good arguement and even busted out the village people. I nesarly choose them to. Then that cheerleader did that thing with her tounge and showed what she could do with her legs. When the guy tried that he tore his hamstring and bit his tounge open

I consider myself well-answered. SFTS decided to be straight on Tuesday, July 14th, 1999. Enough said.

Wait a minute! July 14th, 1999 was a Wednesday! Liar! Liar! Pants on fire!

[Duke Malcolm]

I thought that it had been established previously that it is not genetic...

I say there's summat in the water... hormones collected in those places where the water has been through others (don't they say the water in the south east has been through at least a few people?) collects hormones from women on the Contraceptive Pill, HRT, etc and is thence drunk by the unsuspecting person (pregnant or otherwise) and alters the foetus/child until adolescence. Also, farmers give hormones to chickens and other such livestock to make them bigger and the meat of the animals is eaten so additionalal hormones there. And I realise that I chose psychology, but I was really heading towards "upbringing" as in food and water used when the child was growing up... but also the time in the womb is significant... perhaps also when the gentleman's soldiers are being made and the womans ovaries are being filled, but I digress... there's definitely summat in the water...

[Ser Clegane]

I thought that it had been established previously that it is not genetic...

nope - it hasn't "been established"

[R'as al Ghul]

In my view it's mainly a matter of mankind having royally screwed up the air, food, and water supply and thusly paving the way for genomes to get severely messed up.

There is so much toxic crap in there nowadays that many are born with terrible birth defects, including the desire for "homosexuality."

How do you explain the homosexuality of the ancient Greek and Spartans?

[rasoforos]

In my view it's mainly a matter of mankind having royally screwed up the air, food, and water supply and thusly paving the way for genomes to get severely messed up.

There is so much toxic crap in there nowadays that many are born with terrible birth defects, including the desire for "homosexuality."

Navaros, this is just plain scary... I would get some good laughs if it was a line in Southpark but I doubt that it is your next stand up comedy line...




To the main topic: What exactly do you mean 'causes homosexuality'? You make it sound like a disease...like Cholera ...or Republicanism...


There is only one explanation...Veggies are known to contain estrogens...which are female hormones. Vegetables are Satan's way of making us all gay...