Some help for modding the dacian faction.

[abou]

Is it possible to model wooden walls on top of earth ramparts and then have a ditch in front of it to make everything save the gate impossible to attack with a ram due to the incline? I always thought that would be an interesting improvement in protection as the difference between the palisade and the wooden wall is negligible - in fact, the only reason to upgrade is so you can get to the stone wall.

[QwertyMIDX]

We were actually just talking about what we could do about that. I don't think we have any firm conclusions yet though, other than we have to do something to make there be a real difference and hopefull make city assults harder.

[an_do_89]

Sarmisegetusa was the heart of the culture ,trade and mining ,it was sorroundet by a net of citadels as a spider net ,a very well fortyfied stronghold with mountais all over . The city fall to the romans in 106 AD only through treachery ;the plan of the water supply was sold to the romans , otherwise Sarmisegetusa Regia would had never fall. The romans came and took the gold and captured only 14% of Dacia the rest was owned still by the the free Dacians (86%).They kept only what was vital to them to keep extracting the gold from mines.

[an_do_89]

Dacian wall, looking very much like a Chinese wall, belonging to the years of the Dacian - Roman clashes or even to an eariler period. There is no "waste" of walls, and the whole building has two rows of fashioned calcarous rock, brought there from the Magura Calanului quarry (40 km) where to this day hundreds of thousands of such calcarous stones lie about neglected. What human force and what technology (the archaeologists could not find any stone axe in the neighbourhood of the quarries and of the Dacian walls) could carry out such project? The answer is still unknown.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

It was magic.

That or maybe they just prized their tools so much that they were very careful with them and didn't lose them often around the quarry. But magic seems much more attractive. Orpheus was up in this neighborhood a little, right? His music was said to have been able to move stones into place to build things.

[edyzmedieval]

Be serious Teleklos. I am warning you...
The Dacians look weird. You are neglecting the Getae....

[an_do_89]

The Thracian genealogical tree counts over 200 tribes, of which the most important ones are those of the Dacians, the Getae, the Ramantes people, of the Besins (the metallurgists), of the Latins, etc.

Dio Cassius would say, "let us not forget that Trajan was a true-born Thracian.

The fights between Trajan and Decebalus were fratricidal wars, and the Thracians were Dacians."

According to Mircea Eliade, the huge number of the branches coming out of the Thracian genealogical tree would amount to approximately 200. ("The Dictionary of

Religions," page. 265) Professor Dumitru Balasa drew up a chart of these and counted no less than 150 Thracian branches (see "The Country of the Sun" or "The History of Daco-Romania," Kagaion Publishing House, 1997).

Herodotus (425 BC) would write: "The Thracian people is the most numerous one of the world; the Thracians have several names, according to their specific regions, but their habits are more or less the same." (Fontes, I, 65) After the Greek victory over the Persians, at Maraton, the king Xerxes (486-465 BC) makes himself a big army among whose soldiers Herodotus mentions the

presence of the Bithynian Thracians, from the north-western Asia Minor, who are described as follows:

"The Thracians joined the expedition wearing fox caps, wearing long coats under their vivid colored capes. Their calf-high footwear was made of deerskin. They were equipped with spears, light shields and small daggers."

Ovid, in his "The Sorrowful" speaks about the Geto-Dacians in the following words:
* You can see them on horseback, riding in midroad.
* Among them you won't find anyone who does not carry a quiver, bow and arrows whose spikes are yellow with the viper's poison.
* Their voices are hoarse, their faces wild and they look like the most genuine embodiment of Mars.
* They have never had their hair or beard cut.
* Their right hand is always ready to thrust the knife that they have fastened to their hip. In 547 BC Cyrus' Persians defeated the Thracian Lydian kingdom in Asia Minor, extending their sovereignty as far to the northwest as the southern shore of the Sea of Marmara.

In the "Iliad", Homer, speaking of the Thracians, mentioned that "their golden shields made their armies shine," and that "their treasures were so precious that Priam (king of the Thracian Troy) could take back the head of his dead son from the hands of the Greeks only after offering the latter the famous Golden Thracian Cup."