Some help for modding the dacian faction.

[an_do_89]

For Geoffrey S
The often quoted ancient Greek historian Herodotus shows that: "...after Indians, the Thracian people constituted the largest ethnicity among all the rest of World's races". Let us focus, a little bit, on this issue. In accordance with their geographical location, the first ones who slowly start "detaching" themselves are Geta-Dacians, during the first millennium B.C., throughout various Northern shores of Ister River (today's Danube), and then Illyrians (from the area to be later called Albania), Scythians (living, back then, within the Dobrudja region of modern Romania) etc.

It was fear that forced the Romans, several times defeated by the army of the Thracian Spartacus, to send Marcus Licinius Crassus and Pompei (brought from Spain especially for this) against him. Defeated by a huge army, Spartacus dies heroically, in 71BC, near Silar, facing his death with laughter, in the old Dacian tradition.

The concept of Zamolxian immortality was representing the very Ethics' concept among all young warriors of the "the Dacian (Thracian) Wolves", who were enjoying the imminent Death's perspective and were even laughing at it, precisely in order to show their indifference towards such an event and their looking forward to faster reaching God's underground meadows. These youngsters were fighting and dying joyfully under the "Wolf's Head" Dacian banner, which we would also encounter at the Macedonians, as well as at the so-called "Roman " legions later, that had actually been formed from Thracians living within boundaries of the Roman-occupied territories.

So I'm not refering to another period than the one in the game;

[an_do_89]

For QwertyMIDX
The well-known Greek historian, Herodotus, used to say the following about Thracians: "...after the Indians, the Thracian people constituted the largest ethnicity among all the rest of the world's races. Should they benefit from one ruling only and be spiritually united, they might acceed to become, in my opinion, absolutely undefeatable and to surpass, by far, the greatness of all the other Earth's proud races. The Thracians bear many names, each one according to their living regions, yet all of them show, through almost everything, highly similar customs". The subsequent apparition of Romans was to indirectly lead towards an unification of all Pelasgians, Thracians, Illyrians, Dacians, Geta, Tybali and Odry's tribes

The Thracian genealogical tree counts over 200 tribes, of which the most important ones are those of the Dacians, the Getae, the Ramantes people, of the Besins (the metallurgists), of the Latins, etc.
In my opinion they are the same having the same ancestors-the Pelasgians: Thracians or Geta-Dacians, as you choose to name them. I'm a little confused but I think the proper name would be Geta-Dacians or Geto-Dacians as for the faction Geto-Dacia or Getae-Dacia.

[QwertyMIDX]

Umm, I'm pretty sure you're badly confused on this one.

[edyzmedieval]

Dacians are the north branch of the Thracians. Simple as 1,2,3.

As for the name, Getai or Dacia is very good. If you analise it gramatically, Geto-Dacia is a grammatical error, because the terms are the same.

[an_do_89]

"The poet Ovid, in his sad elegies from Tomis, writes (Trist. Lib. V. 3.v.7-8) that he dwells in a barbarian land, on the shores of the Black Sea, under the constellation of Ursa, where live the Getae and the Scythians. And with St.Paulinus, the Dacians are the ones who dwell under the constellation of Ursa Major (Coleti, Illyricum sacrum. Tom. VIII. P.81).

According to Hesiod’s theogony, chained Prometheus suffered on the famous column on Atlas mountain.

Apollodorus locates Atlas mountain in the country of the Hyperboreans.

And Pindar tells us that the Hyperboreans were the people who dwelt near the sources (cataracts) of Istru (Olymp. III. v. 14. 17).

Finally, the Latin poet Martialis tells us even clearer (Epigr. Lib. IX. 46) that Prometheus’ rocks and the fabulous mountain (of Atlas) were in Dacia. In one of his finest epigrams dedicated to a Roman soldier who was going to Dacia, he says so: “Marceline, soldier, you go now to take on your shoulders the northern sky of the Hyperboreans and the stars of the Getic pole, which barely move. Behold also the rocks of Prometheus. Behold that famous mountain of legends. Soon you will see all these with your own eyes. When you will contemplate these rocks in which echo the great pains of the ancient man, you will say: Yes, he was even tougher than these tough rocks, and to these words you could still add that he, who could endure such torments, could in truth also form the human genus."

PREHISTORIC DACIA by Nicolae Densusianu



This book has been first published in Romania in 1913, but its contents remain as revolutionary, visionary, and controversial as they were almost 100 years ago.Reading this book is a “must” for all those interested in the birth and evolution of European and Eastern Mediterranean civilizations.

www.pelasgians.bigpondhosting.com

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Pindar, Ovidius, Hesiod, Martial, and Apollodoros won't have much bearing on this mod actually. Nor will the location of the Hyperboreans or Prometheus' imprisonment.

The Getai though will have more new units in our next build. I will say that is going to make them more fun to play as.

[an_do_89]

I seriously believe this is the best MOD for RTW made with a lot of hardwork, great ideas ,tones of hours spent .....I hope and I trully believe you will handle it out in a way that will surprise us. As for the Getae faction-it's as great as the other factions in the game-very good ideas indeed and very good documentation.