Times are getting tough for Polygamists...

[Strike For The South]

Why?

The idea of loving one person giving yourself up for the one love of your life. Not 3 or 4. Thats how I was always tuaght it was. A marrige is between one woman and one man and they pledge themselves to eachohter.

[Pindar]

The idea of loving one person giving yourself up for the one love of your life. Not 3 or 4. Thats how I was always tuaght it was. A marrige is between one woman and one man and they pledge themselves to eachohter.

So how would you respond to someone who said: the idea of loving several persons, giving yourself up for the loves of your life: not just one, that's how I was always taught it was. A marriage is between women and a man and they pledge themselves to each other.

[Strike For The South]

So how would you respond to someone who said: the idea of loving several persons, giving yourself up for the loves of your life: not just one, that's how I was always taught it was. A marriage is between women and a man and they pledge themselves to each other.

However they may veiw it doesnt make it true. Love is singular. Ive liked allot of women in my young life but they were obviously nothing more than physical infatuations. Not to mention polygamy would open a whole host of problems not even relateing to the defintion of love. IMO it shouldnt even be up for legalty.

Edit: and to the above post I say its one of the recuuring themes of the bible. Dont be lured by nickel tricks and snake oil. There is one true Christ and he was the last prophet. And his kingdom shall reign agian.

[Pindar]

However they may veiw it doesnt make it true.

This statement could be returned in kind.

Love is singular.

Why?

Edit: and to the above post I say its one of the recuuring themes of the bible. Dont be lured by nickel tricks and snake oil. There is one true Christ and he was the last prophet. And his kingdom shall reign agian.

If Christ was the last prophet then one must reject all those who penned the New Testament.

There are also troubling statements like this in the text:

"Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch. And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar. -Acts 11:25-28

[Strike For The South]

Prophets is the wrong word I was talking more along the lines of Messiah type of deal. As for love people have differnet definitons and I probably wont change anyone minds that love is a man and a woman but as for polygamy being legal definitions of love dont matter. An old practice which needs to go the way of the Dodo.

[Pindar]

Prophets is the wrong word I was talking more along the lines of Messiah type of deal.

I see. So what you really wanted to say was Jesus is the Christ as Christ means Messiah. Is that right?

As for love people have differnet definitons and I probably wont change anyone minds that love is a man and a woman but as for polygamy being legal definitions of love dont matter. An old practice which needs to go the way of the Dodo.

This is simply a personal preference position then?

[Byzantine Mercenary]

If Christ was the last prophet then one must reject all those who penned the New Testament.

There are also troubling statements like this in the text:

"Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch. And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar. -Acts 11:25-28

hmm maybee i should start a thread on this subject, i always figure that the safest thing to do is to follow the four gospels as for the other new testamnet books, well, as you say jesus himself said that false teachings will come and be accepted and so perhaps some elements of the other new testament books are questionable as such i would prefer to base my beliefs on the teachings of the gospels, (wasn't the book of revelations nearly not in the bible?)

[Keba]

hmm maybee i should start a thread on this subject, i always figure that the safest thing to do is to follow the four gospels as for the other new testamnet books, well, as you say jesus himself said that false teachings will come and be accepted and so perhaps some elements of the other new testament books are questionable as such i would prefer to base my beliefs on the teachings of the gospels, (wasn't the book of revelations nearly not in the bible?)

False teaching and prophets might not need to actually refer to the religious kind.

I'm just speculating here, but modern science could fall under the category, and scientists could be false prophets, able to shake the foundations of faith in the faithful.

But then, I am an atheist, and have never read the bible.

As for polygamy, it is a traditional practice in some cultures, but seems to be dying out with the advent and domination of the western ideals.

[Byzantine Mercenary]

False teaching and prophets might not need to actually refer to the religious kind.

I'm just speculating here, but modern science could fall under the category, and scientists could be false prophets, able to shake the foundations of faith in the faithful.

But then, I am an atheist, and have never read the bible.

As for polygamy, it is a traditional practice in some cultures, but seems to be dying out with the advent and domination of the western ideals.

well most of science does not concern religious matters so i dont see the relevence of your point.

Ive yet to see science shake my faith significantly!

i would suggest looking at the bible even though you reject it, i have done the same with the quran and found it improved my understading of muslims considerably it would stop a lot of false assumptions about christianity if people knew more about the central message.

Back on topic polygamy does not look workable to me there are not enough women for everyone to be polygamous it just wouldn't work you would get favortites, how would you feel if you wife didn't think you were enough to satisfy her?

[Lemur]

(wasn't the book of revelations nearly not in the bible?)

It almost got the axe. And to be honest, I wish the axe had fallen. Most of the early (3rd century) Church fathers rejected the text, but somehow it wound up back in. A brief primer on the book.

[Pindar]

hmm maybee i should start a thread on this subject, i always figure that the safest thing to do is to follow the four gospels as for the other new testamnet books, well, as you say jesus himself said that false teachings will come and be accepted and so perhaps some elements of the other new testament books are questionable as such i would prefer to base my beliefs on the teachings of the gospels, (wasn't the book of revelations nearly not in the bible?)

Of course limiting one's canon to the four Gospels doesn't speak to the fact all were written by someone other than the Christ. In fact, the traditional names associated with some of the Gospels is more a matter of convention than anything noting authorship in the texts themselves. The other issue is one needs to explain the seeming arbitrary quality of admitting some books and not others. For example, why are Paul's Epistles on the outs? Why include the Gospel of John, but not the Gospel of Thomas?