sea channels

[matteus the inbred]

Yeah, I think that's right. You must have a clear route with no hostile ships and you have to leave from a port province but you don't have to land in one. Of course, this means if you get into trouble your troops have to survive for a minimum of four turns in control of the captured province (ie. until you can build a port) before you can get them out by sea again!

I'm pretty sure the 'deep' sea areas become navigable after 1172(?) when compasses become available, for ship types that are stated as 'deep water/ocean-going/whatever' on their profiles. It takes a while anyway. Caravels can do it, I know that.

[p_nutter]

Oops- you don't need a port at the target province. This means I've been letting lots of rebellions happen on islands when I could have just 'ported in more troops.

Lar - are you trying to invade the Sicilians through their own navy? Sink their ships first!

[lar]

so if there neutral and im trying to land on their island it wont go thru their navy, but if im landing on someone elses island there navy wont affect it?

i realise that screenshot shows i cant get to byzantines that was the wrong pic sry ill upload one that shows i can sail to other areas if need be, but i think that top question is right isnt it?

[Bregil the Bowman]

[QUOTE=lar]so if there neutral and im trying to land on their island it wont go thru their navy, but if im landing on someone elses island there navy wont affect it?

QUOTE]


That's it exactly. Since they are neutral they will not blockade troops passing through, but they will take a dim view of anyone training to arrange a stop-over in their own territory.


In order to invade, you will have to sink their ships, thus losing surprise and possibly incurring Papal displeasure.

[lar]

In order to invade, you will have to sink their ships, thus losing surprise and possibly incurring Papal displeasure.

oh no, im doing this to gain popes favour, he is at war with them and he will take sicily soon so i was gonna take malta, im just taking my chance to gain every port i can and just amass a huge wealth and do alot of crusades :). (GA game)

[Barbarossa1221]

You can only invade an enemy province by sea if they dont have their navy there. And you have an unbroken chain of ships.

[Bregil the Bowman]

I'm just thinking about the logic behind being able to land troops when there isn't a port but not being able to remove troops in the same circumstances.

My conclusion is that it's because of the poor navigation techniques and communications of the day. An invasion fleet would set off in the general direction of the country it was aiming at, dump it's troops wherever it could (beaches, fishing villages etc) and hope that they were able to gather together before the enemy turned up. For example, did Duke William plan to land at Pevensey or is that just where the wind took him.

On the other hand, for an army to meet up with a fleet, it would need a definite point of rendezvous and facilities to get large numbers aboard quickly. Once ashore, an army wouldn't dare split itself up in order to use little fishing ports etc if it had enemy troops, or even unfriendly peasants, on the prowl.

The exception to this rule being the Vikings, who were used to breaking up their raiding parties in order to escape using the minor waterways - hence the excellent rule in VI that allows the Vikings to "hit and run" where there are no ports.

Convinced anyone?