"Racist" Humor

[Strike For The South]

What do yall think of this humor? Personally I love it and use it all the time. I make fun of everyone from hicks to blacks to mexicans to chineese peopele. For there are two things you have to remember one its all in the delivry and two its all in good fun no harm is meant to come. However some people might not be inclined to this same kind of humor and would find it "appalling" and call me a "racist"

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

it's hilarious, I was speaking with an Indian friend of mine today and started cracking a whole bunch of spice jokes.



and he started cracking flavourless food jokes. all good stuff, even if he's destroyed his taste buds with capsicum.

Edit: but really, I'm more the first option, I just wanted to give the second one a boost as I figure it won't be too popular.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Racist humor isn't funny. Ethnic humor can be, that mind of mencia show is pretty funny.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

Racist humor isn't funny. Ethnic humor can be, that mind of mencia show is pretty funny.

what's the difference?

[Alexanderofmacedon]

If they're your friends or they know you're joking, I think it's a BS answer to all your problems. If you don't understand what I mean...

Say you're having a bad day (like I did today) and a Jewish friend of mine does something stupid/annoying, when I'm quite tired. I just looked at him for a while and said "Dirty Jew". He laughed, I laughed and we all went about our business...

As for Taffy: I'm half Indian...lay some of those spice jokes on me!

If you can't make fun of yourself, you're just not any fun in my opinion. If you defend yourself every time you get made fun of, you'll go insane.

[Strike For The South]

We have a jewish guy at our school. We call him Jew and its funny. In 7th grade IIRC there was a rather ugly incdent with a mormon child but I wasnt really part of that.

[KukriKhan]

SFTS: "...its all in the delivry...

And I add: "It's all in the environment". Dave Chappelle, a professional comedian making a race joke, in a comedy club where people expect, and have paid, for him to be outrageous, is one thing.

And like SFTS says: 'delivery'... that paying customer (including cable subscribers) can see his facial expressions and body language, and take into consideration the 'entertainment' venue.

Repeating such material on an internet text-based forum, lacks that delivery and environment.

The posts above speak of times when, in real-life some race joke was made, understood to be harmless by the hearer/see-er of the joke, because they could see the face and body language signalling lack of intent to offend, and therefore, all offense was forgiven.

That environment, and those signals, don't exist here. We have members and guests, and readers from every continent except Antarctica, and many of those eyeballs would not understand, or would understandably mis-interpret a joke easily understood as harmless in San Antonio or New York or Los Angeles.

I apologize for the long-windedness in this post. I thought it seemed time to answer the "Can I tell Race Jokes here?" question, before anyone got the urge. Short version:

"Can I?". No.

"Can I link to a race joke video on the 'net, that I found?" Yes. If you describe it as such. And only the link... we hold posters accountable for all content within their posts - even if Robin Williams, or Dave Chappelle, or Louis Farrakkan originally said it. We don't hold you accountable for forum-rules-violating content on some other website, if you have labelled it/warned readers, as such.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

That environment, and those signals, don't exist here. We have members and guests, and readers from every continent except Antarctica, and many of those eyeballs would not understand, or would understandably mis-interpret a joke easily understood as harmless in San Antonio or New York or Los Angeles.

I apologize for the long-windedness in this post. I thought it seemed time to answer the "Can I tell Race Jokes here?" question, before anyone got the urge. Short version:

"Can I?". No.

I agree. It's quite annoying when people don't understand jokes (rascial or non-rascial) because of this barrier. I'm sure many wouldn't take offence, but there are those who would, and I can't blame you. I wasn't planning on any rascist comments, by the way...

[Strike For The South]

Dearset Kurki I was not going to post anything of the sort (well maybe if the disscusion evoled) I wanted to see peoples opinon from real life

[KukriKhan]

I know guys. Thanks.

I just wanted to be clear about org policy.

Fascinating discussion. Please continue.

[Kanamori]

Keep it with friends, and directed at friends who know you're joking, and it will be nothing more than good fun. Even in those circumstances though, they can still be quite tasteless; user discretion I guess, and that's why I think it should be kept among friends that understand that you are only joking. Did I mention they should know it's a joke?

[Lemur]

I think a lto of it comes down to whether you're coming from a place of respect or disrespect. You can make wonderful jokes about race, sexuality, religion, etc., but there's something really un-funny about a guy who hates blacks making black jokes, or a person who hates gays making gay jokes.

If you're coming at it from a basis of understanding, it's hard to go wrong. Kindness makes all the difference. I know it sounds weird, but it's true.

[Faust|]

I think a lto of it comes down to whether you're coming from a place of respect or disrespect. You can make wonderful jokes about race, sexuality, religion, etc., but there's something really un-funny about a guy who hates blacks making black jokes, or a person who hates gays making gay jokes.

If you're coming at it from a basis of understanding, it's hard to go wrong. Kindness makes all the difference. I know it sounds weird, but it's true.

I would basically agree. For someone with any aesthetic sense, this humor is only funny when the deliverer is speaking from a rostrum of social equality. In more ancient times a disrespectful deliverer could be as entertaining as those "chimp-parodies" of the 50's, but those times are long gone. Even someone who does not believe in the equality mentioned above must agree with this.

[yesdachi]

Racist humor isn't funny. Ethnic humor can be, that mind of mencia show is pretty funny.

I just finished watching an episode. He is very funny, I think it is because he keeps his punches just barely above the belt and doesn’t discriminate about who he makes fun of.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

I just finished watching an episode. He is very funny, I think it is because he keeps his punches just barely above the belt and doesn’t discriminate about who he makes fun of.

And he makes fun of himself, which makes it all round fun, instead of bigotry.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Those two jokes are not ones I would tell in a public setting, because you never know who knows if you are joking, or who might think you are a racist pigheaded son of a submariner.

But you just did post them in a public setting, despite KukriKhan's eloquent advice.

This thread should be erased and locked immediately.

[Faust|]

Ah, I thought they were more insightful than offensive.

[Duke of Gloucester]

With a really good friend who knows that you respect them, any comments about their race or any other atributes will be taken in the spirit that they are meant. However in any other circumstance, they should, just as good manners, be avoided because they may cause offence.

[Ser Clegane]

In case it hasn't been noticed I repeat it:

I thought it seemed time to answer the "Can I tell Race Jokes here?" question, before anyone got the urge. Short version:

"Can I?". No.

This thread raises a valid question for general discussion (even if the org has a clear policy regarding how the answer looks for this board) - however, the next times I see somebody using this thread just to load off some of his/her favourite racist jokes, this thread will be closed (in addition to the usual individual response to forum rule "violators")

Thanks for your attention

[InsaneApache]

Racist humour is not funny.

[English assassin]

I second IA.

Why is it not funny? Because its lazy and untrue.

By "racist" I take we are meaning some joke that depends on a characteristic thought to be shared by people of a certain race, eg (to keep things nice) that Asians are hard working.

The basic trouble is that the stereotypes aren't true, not for everyone anyway. They use someone of a particular race as a symbol for what the joke is really about, like hard working nerdy kids, or men with large penises (that's englishman jokes, obviously.) So why laugh at them. The humour isn't accurately lampooning something in the real world, and its not totally off the wall and absurd, it inhabits a no-man's land signposted Pointless.

Whether we ought to object to something just because its not funny is another matter. Amongst friends you can say what you like (though personally I winced at the idea that pointing out that someone is a Jew could be funny). People of a certain race can, if they wish, tell jokes about themselves, or anyway if they can't its for other people of the same race to tell them so (you want to do Jewish jokes? Be Jewish). But IMHO a lot of racist jokes work by asking you to buy into some derogatory stereotype about someone different to yourself and laugh along with your WASP/black/whatever buddies. Or, if they don't work like that for you, are you sure they won't work like that for someone else.

So, no, not funny, as a rule.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

"Why is it not funny? Because its lazy and untrue."

but, that's why it is funny. When I ask my Jewish buddy about how many Palestinian children he has tortured today or how his secret plan to oppress and destroy the white working class is going, well, when I say that crap to him, I really don't expect him to reply with "well, 17 mini ragheads and my plan is going well", no, I expect him to say something charming about gentiles in reply. I'd be horrified if my accussation were found to be true.

[Leet Eriksson]

I voted the first, you guys should check out the org irc channel when SFTS is on, i think at one time my jaws even hurt becuase of all the funny ethnic jokes he made.

[English assassin]

"Why is it not funny? Because its lazy and untrue."

but, that's why it is funny. When I ask my Jewish buddy about how many Palestinian children he has tortured today or how his secret plan to oppress and destroy the white working class is going, well, when I say that crap to him, I really don't expect him to reply with "well, 17 mini ragheads and my plan is going well", no, I expect him to say something charming about gentiles in reply. I'd be horrified if my accussation were found to be true.

Well, like I said, what two friends say to each other is between them. The humour isn't that you think jews kill children, the humour is that you can say something offensive to your mate but because he's your mate its OK. In fact the humour depends on the fact that the joke would otherwise be unacceptable.

[Devastatin Dave]

Obviously it is only funny if the person telling the racist joke is not white. If a white person tells a racist joke then its just plain racism. If a black comedian base their entire career on racism, then its "art" or "talent". All you have to do is watch Mind of Mancia or any Chappelle episode and imagine if a white comedian said those things.
GAH!!!

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I am not a politically correct person and i believe it to be the language of cowards. I am all the better for it, i will laugh at most things, some times you just can't help yourself. The sickest jokes are always the funniest anyway

One of chubby's jokes of "As the Jewish Paedophile said Go easy on them sweets son", you just can't help but laugh. Some people just takes things to heart too much. Life shouldn't be that way, its too short to moan about something that just isn't important, if you don't like the comdey just switch over and as for the people who go and get offended they should know by rumour what these comedians are like before they watch them

People go at Chubby Brown for being racist, sexist and everything else but the fact of the matter is that he is hilarious. Sometimes white comedians will get itno trouble about racist material but are you telling me black comedians don't tell racist jokes? That chris Rock tells plenty of racist jokes about white people and the majority are very offensive for some. I don't take heed because he's not funny and has no talent so it doesn't get under my skin so i don't see if a white fella says jokes about black people what the difference is. A joke is a joke and shouldn't be taken seriously anyway

[Dutch_guy]

I voted the first, you guys should check out the org irc channel when SFTS is on, i think at one time my jaws even hurt becuase of all the funny ethnic jokes he made.

Seconded.

[Weebeast]

Why is it not funny? Because its lazy and untrue.

So if you're gay and I pull a gay joke you'd be laughing?

Obviously it is only funny if the person telling the racist joke is not white. If a white person tells a racist joke then its just plain racism.

ROFL

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Obviously it is only funny if the person telling the racist joke is not white. If a white person tells a racist joke then its just plain racism. If a black comedian base their entire career on racism, then its "art" or "talent". All you have to do is watch Mind of Mancia or any Chappelle episode and imagine if a white comedian said those things.
GAH!!!

Too true, but they are funny!

[English assassin]

Why is it not funny? Because its lazy and untrue.

So if you're gay and I pull a gay joke you'd be laughing?

I don't understand.

My point is, any joke that relies on a stereotype is not funny because its making fun of something that isn't true, eg all Jewish people are mean or what have you. So if your gay joke depended on me thinking, yeah, that's funny because all gay guys are really into interior design and cooking quiches, its not going to be funny, because I'm going to be thinking, but what about all the other gay guys who don't act like that.

A joke that begins "This gay guy walks into a bar in Texas..." is predicated on the listener having assumptions about what gay guys (and Texans) do in bars. Which bear no resemblance to the real world, where gay guys drink pints and Texans do cross-stitch. So its not funny.