Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
Ok, now I understand.
No, it's plain from the rest of your post that you don't.

Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
Well, I'm sure you will disagree with this but i believe the largest factor is personal responsibility. I'm sure that does not jive with your opinion which is basically to blame everyone except the individual, that tends to be the mindset of your arguements.
Thanks for bringing Dorothy's empty-headed friend into the discussion, I wasn't sure if he was going to make it or not.



Contrary to the nonsensical viewpoint that you attempted to attribute to me, I believe that everybody is ultimately responsibly for their own decisions in life.

But having said that, there are sometimes circumstances in life that can "funnel" people into a downward spiral of bad decisions.

The problem is that hardcore lefties don't acknowledge the validity of the former, and hardcore righties don't acknowledge the existence of the latter.

Why don't we try to meet in the middle somewhere?

I am not saying the black kid who decides to sell crack is blameless. But I am also acknowledging that in many cases it may have seemed to that black kid like his choices were very limited. And the best way to lessen the chances of him making those bad decisions is to try to remove the circumstances that cause the funnel to come into being.

Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
But I will concede that there has been many injustices done to blacks in the past, but I don't understand how a legal immagrant from India can come here and within a generation he's successful and his kids are in college
Because that immigrant from India was an immigrant, not an imported piece of property.

His/her ancestors didn't have to endure slavery, and oppression for four hundred years before they could open their own business.

Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
while a large portion of blacks continue to use the victimhood from "whitey" as an excuse for their poverty, criminal acts, etc.
http://www.jointcenter.org/2004elect...rime+Brief.pdf

Hmmm. Average length of a white guy's jail sentence for a violent crime: a little over 6 and a half years. A black guy? Just under 8 and a half years. A white guy's sentence for a drug related crime? 5 years. A black guy? Over 8 and a half years. Overall average sentence length for a white guy: 3 years 9 months. A black guy? 7 years.

You're right Dave. There's no bias against African Americans in the system.

Whites oppressing blacks is a myth.




















P.S. It's "jibe," not "jive." Ebonics on the brain, Dave?