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    Default Re: Social Justice... Does it really mean the lazy never have to work again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha
    Dont you have index raises in those to follow inflation?
    Why would you do something silly like that? They only need to get three fulltime jobs and childcare for their children in between in order to compensate for the inflation. If they don't get three jobs, then they're lazy piles of worthlessness that don't deserve to live with teeth in their mouths.

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone
    But I've never understood the morality/social conscience one. "WHY" is it wrong to require people to earn their upkeep, Idaho?
    Approaching the question from a different angle works better for me. Why are you content to just leave people rot in the streets if they are unwilling to work? It is offensive to the human condition. I don't care if someone won't work because they're lazy, which I think is much less often the case than that they are mentally ill -- you have to wonder what state of mind someone has to be in for them to accept living on the street with only some very dirty sweatpants, a sweatshirt and a blanket -- if I have something to give to somebody who is much worse off than me, however it may be, I'm willing to help them out because they are another human being and they should not live worse than livestock that are about to be shipped off to the slaughterhouse. I do not advocate giving them riches, but they should have a life where they are, some how or another, sheltered and have the basic amenities for living. In essence, they should not be first required to do the work because they will not necessarily seek it out. That is not to say that it could not be strongly encouraged while also giving shelter to those who cannot. And also, it isn't charity if you're forcing them to provide all of that for themselves.

    As to this idea where, if somehow, and this wil never happen, people had equal opportunity then it is justified that someone who gets a worse job deserves a worse living conditions, I disagree. Simply put, we are not all of the same capability, and that does not mean that those people deserve worse living conditions. Although I'm not nearly intelligent enough to find a practical solution to a problem that's been around since the beginning of history, that does not mean that they somehow deserve the condition they are in.
    Last edited by Kanamori; 04-23-2006 at 15:25.

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