Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
Ask yourself why? Its rather a simple question to answer. The people allow the government to exist. The constitution is not just a governing document for how the government is to function - it is the contract between the people and the government.
Of course, Redleg. But in the scenario that Joker describes the government obviously refuses to comply with the contract. What´s the point in having a constitution then?

Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
In this you are missing the idea behind the 2nd Ammendment in particuler, and in the other ammendments in general.
Could you eleborate a bit more on this?


Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
Incorrect - one always has the right to defend the constitution regardless if there are tyrants in office or simpletons. Rights don't work in the context of "normal" and "circumstance" - rights exist as rights or not at all.
The right to defend the constitution is course always there. We are talking about defending the constitution with violent measures. I think we agree that you can´t defend it in any situation violently.