Re: How bad does it have to get?
If you want a rough result, you may choose that option.Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Whole West is rightfully crying out for the rise of Islamic terrorism, however the kingpins of the gang have mastered such a good plan in Iraq that the land had never been so convenient for Islamic terrorism to thrive and rule.
Well done.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
Meh...
People who hold the glory of a god higher than human life should be killed in the name of humanity.
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-Oscar WildeNow that the House of Commons is trying to become useful, it does a great deal of harm.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
Well, the silver lining is, I suppose, that this is hardly going to curry support for these militias amongst the locals...
Re: How bad does it have to get?
Or perhaps we all just stop killing, for whatever reasons?
"If there is a sin against life, it consists not so much in despairing as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this one."
Albert Camus "Noces"
Re: How bad does it have to get?
Well, I remember that there was a man who taught along the lines of "Wouldn't it be nice if people were nice to each other" a couple of thousand years ago. Surprisingly, he got killed.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
Well, if you mean genocides, that's just the same thing but on a massive scale really. Unprovoked killings.
Student by day, bacon-eating narwhal by night (specifically midnight)
Re: How bad does it have to get?
Yeah, all Nazis should be taken behind the chemical sheds and shot.
Pot, may I introduce Kettle ? You ought to get along fine, being both black...
Given that unreasonable people have been killing each other off since, oh, Stone Age - they only got organized about it sometime after someone invented agriculture - you'd think we'd have run out of them by now if that was a working solution.
More like creating the conditions where they can run amuck. It's kind of sad the place actually was safer under Saddam and his bully-boys... Besides, in this particular case not really even the West's. The blame sits pretty squarely on the US, which after all did insist on pulling off a half-cocked invasion against just about everyone's frantic pleas and warnings...
And let's not even get started on why these nice folks already had a shedful of axes to grind with the West (and some other sides, but that's not really so important here). The topic is frankly rather depressing, virtually quaranteed to go off on tangent, and would most likely end up chasing its own tail.
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All Nazis to be shot?
No they dint really have a God.
Do they?
I was simply stating that it is rather amazing that people can hold a God higher than a Human life. I got caught up in the heat of the moment.
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-Oscar WildeNow that the House of Commons is trying to become useful, it does a great deal of harm.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
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...just a guess, but I take it you're not a big history buff ?
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
-Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Re: How bad does it have to get?
No, you don't, SFTS.
And..
Now you do
Thanks to all participated.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
This debate is a little silly.
Of course, the even was a tragic horror, and the perpatrators should have very bad things done to them.
However, similarly evil things were perpetrated under Saddam's rule. Iraqi soccer players, anyone?
If anything, we've changed who is doing the killing.
There's plenty of Saddam-related sad stories to match insurgent-related sad stories, and it makes little sense to tout one or the other as an argument for or against the war.
Case closed.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
This men wernt infidels or westerners they were street performers this isnt about the west its about insanty.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
This men wernt infidels or westerners they were street performers this isnt about the west its about insanty.
Is that the Pontius Pilate routine SFTS ?
Re: How bad does it have to get?
You still do not get the idea of my post, do you ?
Last edited by LeftEyeNine; 04-23-2006 at 17:10.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
Worse than the murder of hope?There's worse things that happen in the world.
Sometimes I slumber on a bed of roses
Sometimes I crash in the weeds
One day a bowl full of cherries
One night I'm suckin' on lemons and spittin' out the seeds
-Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers, Lemons
Re: How bad does it have to get?
Definitely agree with the fac that the logic "there are worse things..." is deeply flawed - for sooo many reasons, some of which (very good ones) were already stated.
It is a very sad event indeed.
oh, and btw, I remember there was a great big number of outraged posts when someone said "Meh" referring to the 9/11 deaths (following the same logic, that more people than that die every day in car crashes/Africa/whatever).
Therapy helps, but screaming obscenities is cheaper.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
Misleading Vividness comes to mind. Look that up.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
Sociopath. Look that up.
Why do you hate Freedom?
The US is marching backward to the values of Michael Stivic.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
I get it. Big bad America comes in and screws everything up. Which I might listen to if it made any bit of sense but these wernt troops or cops or goverment leaders they were men performing a puppet show America has nothing to do with this. Its sick men with a sick idelogy hiding behnid the guise of the infidel.
Youve lost me
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
Youve lost me
Well strike , its like this .
Since there was a remarkable absnce of lawless thugs shooting up vans and dragging their occupants out to be beaten to death in the capital city , simply because they put on a show for kids regardless of their faith or ethnicity , before the west decided to make things better , then the west making things better is quite unsurprisingly a causual factor in this .
For you to say it has nothing to do with the west when it is the west that brought todays wonderful situation about , and is wandering round with its thumb up its arse instead of fixing the situation , is simply washing your hands of any responsibility for a situation they helped create .
Now you correctly say that it is insanity , but some silly buggers turned the whole country into a damn big lunatic asylum , and then helped put the lunatics in charge .
Since the silly buggers in question happen to be Western leaders then the west has some responsibilty for this doesn't it .
Bring 'em on ...eh ?
Last edited by Tribesman; 04-24-2006 at 00:14.
Re: How bad does it have to get?
So its the wests fualt for "unleashing' these men
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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