Mnai(more information)

[MaximianusBR]

Anyone have information about Mnai?

[Bonny]

be patient, it's coming in the faq within this day

[MaximianusBR]

okay

[Wardo]

Mnai is not yours, it's Mnai.

[MaximianusBR]

Mnai is not yours, it's Mnai.

what you mean?

[Jolt]

I think 1 Mnai was 100 Drachmae, the Helenistic currency used then. Converting to modern values I think 1 Mnai valued 2500 American Dollars. Hope it helps. :)

[MaximianusBR]

thanks...open to more information!

[paullus]

it started as a weight, and i'm having trouble putting the numbers right, but its either 100 drachma = mnai, 60 mnai = talent, or the numbers switch. Either way, its a good bit bigger than a drachma, a good bit smaller than a talent. It gets confusing (for me at least) when you start dealing with non-monetary weights in the drachma-mnai-talent system and their equivalent prices in the monetary drachma-mnai-talent system. Say, iron ore to silver coinage. I get mindboggled.

EDIT: on a further, and significantly more interesting note, i like how similar it is to "money"...i mean, say mnai 3 times fast "monai monai monai!"

[QwertyMIDX]

The most common conversion is 60 mnai = talent, but there are a number of different weight systems that have different numbers, IIRC 60 = 1 is Attic.

[Avicenna]

So it's just a conversion from Roman to Greek currency?

[QwertyMIDX]

No, it's a weight; when used in conjuction with precious metals sort of a currency.

[Bonny]

Q: What are mnai?
A: In EB the Rome TW currency Denarii is replaced by the more historically accurate mnai or minae. A mnai is 1/60 of a talent (Greek: talanton).

The talent was once a Babylonian weight unit, and varied much over time and in the places it was used.
In the 3rd century BC contracts between Rome and Qart Hadasht, the Attic/Euböic talent is used, which amounted approximately 27 kg.
(As for another example: After the second Punic war, Qart Hadasht had to pay 10.000 talents (600.000 mnai or 270 tons of silver) to Rome.

During the EB timeframe there were two major types of currency systems in use in the Mediterranean region.

Attic
6 Obolen = 1 Drachme
100 Drachmen = 1 mnai
60 mnai = 1 Talent

Qart Hadasht / Ptolemaic Egypt
60 shiqlu = 1 mnai
60 mnai = 1 Talent

[MaximianusBR]

600.000 Mnai!! In game would be almost impossible to pay such money!! Carthage Broke!

[Avicenna]

So it is the universal (at least to the Mediteranneans) currency during the ancient time as opposed to a Roman currency?

EDIT: maximianus, look at the "Your best campaign" thread in the entrance hall. Bombasticus Maximus has 99.9 mil denarii in the Selucid Campaign of his without much land. There's also a thread to show others your current campaign in EB, and a Macedonian campaign has over a mil Mnai with just the KH cities taken and Epirus off the Balkans.

[Bonny]

To the time of the first punic war the romans had no "currency" to compete in "international trade", so they used the attic standard.
(I hope this sentence make sense )

[Quicci]

600.000 Mnai!! In game would be almost impossible to pay such money!! Carthage Broke!

...and in RTW Game terms all Romans (well, Patricians, generals etc.) got bad traits for having full ripe treasury LOL.

[orwell]

Does having a large treasury still hurt anything, or has that been removed?

[qvcatullus]

Does having a large treasury still hurt anything, or has that been removed?

A good question that I'd also like the answer to... is that changed with the new traits and script? Cuz I've kinda conditioned myself to keep below 50k, which was always kind of silly since it wasn't that much money in-game.