The Nuclear question

[Duke John]

No. The death of 100,000 human beings does not justify the death of another 100,000.

[Watchman]

"Two evils does not one good make" goes one old proverb, I think. And Gandhi had that rather caustic one about "an eye for an eye will only leave the entire world blind"...

[Fragony]

"Two evils does not one good make" goes one old proverb, I think. And Gandhi had that rather caustic one about "an eye for an eye will only leave the entire world blind"...

Ghandi wasn't a mullah.

[Watchman]

Ghandi wasn't a mullah.

Yes, I'm quite aware of that. I imagine so is anyone who hasn't been living under an Arkansas rock for the past hundred years.
Your point ?

[Fragony]

Yes, I'm quite aware of that. I imagine so is anyone who hasn't been living under an Arkansas rock for the past hundred years.
Your point ?

My point would make Ser Clegane a very sad moderator.

[Ser Clegane]

My point would make Ser Clegane a very sad moderator.

naah - I take pride in my job

[Watchman]

My point would make Ser Clegane a very sad moderator.

Will you elaborate, or shall I interpret that as "none" for convenience ?

[Fragony]

Will you elaborate, or shall I interpret that as "none" for convenience ?

If that makes you happy, who am I to denie you that. Nope won't elaborate, still waiting for my edit function and my way to cool signature to show up again. I could give a hint of course, it is a lamb-B, who will get it first, you or the mooses?

[Ser Clegane]

Ghandi wasn't a mullah.

Neither are most Iranians

Americans aren't really human, they're just a whole bunch of scum anyway.

I think Kanamori's statement was meant to be sarcastic (at least I hope so )

[Kanamori]

Iranians aren't really human, they're just a whole bunch of scum anyway. Why wait for them to nuke for us to just randomly nuke a bunch of their cities? I say we start now and save ourselves the trouble later. What a waste of life.

[Duke John]

Americans aren't really human, they're just a whole bunch of scum anyway. What a waste of life.

[Avicenna]

Iranians aren't really human, they're just a whole bunch of scum anyway. Why wait for them to nuke for us to just randomly nuke a bunch of their cities? I say we start now and save ourselves the trouble later. What a waste of life.

You, sir, should join the Iranians if that were the case.

2 wrongs don't make a right. Anyhow, the Iranians probably can't make a nuclear MISSILE, if they could even make a bomb. (how could a missile from Iran make it to the US anyway?) The bomb itself would have to be shot down from a plane, which itself could be shot down before it had a chance of reaching the target. You could simply declare for reasons of security that no Iranian planes are allowed into American airspace, and all who trespass run the risk of being shot down.

[Ser Clegane]

Anyhow, the Iranians probably can't make a nuclear MISSILE, if they could even make a bomb. (how could a missile from Iran make it to the US anyway?) The bomb itself would have to be shot down from a plane, which itself could be shot down before it had a chance of reaching the target. You could simply declare for reasons of security that no Iranian planes are allowed into American airspace, and all who trespass run the risk of being shot down.

Developing (or acquiring) the necessary carrier missiles would just be a matter of time, and once Iran actually has nuclear weapons (even if they are not yet capable of reaching the US) any attempts to attack would be a bit late as they could then randomly hit any Western ally in the region (just like North Korea is relatively save from a Western attack by practically holding its neighbours as hostages).

That being said, I would fully oppose a pre-emptive nuclear strike against Iran. As frightening as the idea might be - but I fear that we have to get accustomed to the fact that 5 years down the road (or 10 years if somebody decides to launch a small-scale strike on Iran's nuclear facilities) Iran will be have nuclear weapons - my (albeit little) hope is that by that time perhaps the Irani people also manage to rid themselves of the current regime...

[BigTex]

You, sir, should join the Iranians if that were the case.

2 wrongs don't make a right. Anyhow, the Iranians probably can't make a nuclear MISSILE, if they could even make a bomb. (how could a missile from Iran make it to the US anyway?) The bomb itself would have to be shot down from a plane, which itself could be shot down before it had a chance of reaching the target. You could simply declare for reasons of security that no Iranian planes are allowed into American airspace, and all who trespass run the risk of being shot down.

You forget all the terrorist groups the Iranians created and fund. Wouldn't be to hard with enough tries to smuggle a bomb into a western nation. Iran has already used its terrorist groups to attack Isreal, wouldnt be suprisisng once they got the bomb that a few months later Isreal gets bombed.

2 wrongs don't make a right.

It may not make a right, but that second one sure makes you feel a h*ll of alot better.