"Domineering Maidens"

[doc_bean]

So its impossible to label and categorize a human, or other animal for that matter, based on their observed behavior? Then the terms "thief" or "murderer" are of no use to us?

Being a b**** isn't such a clear action as killing someone is it ?

You still haven't specified what exactly you mean by being a b****. I'm sure it means a lot of different things to different people.

But then, you didn't react last time I asked either....

[Ser Clegane]

So its impossible to label and categorize a human, or other animal for that matter, based on their observed behavior? Then the terms "thief" or "murderer" are of no use to us?

"thief" and "murderer" are purely descriptive terms that are clearly defined, while "bitch" is a derogatory trem that is used to label women - either in general or because their behaviour is not in line with how "women ought to behave" (at least according to some people).

So if you intend to continue the discussion in this thread I would advise you to refrain from just throwing around an offensive label.

For any further discussions regarding forum rules please feel free to PM me.

[Faust|]

Being a b**** isn't such a clear action as killing someone is it ?

You still haven't specified what exactly you mean by being a b****. I'm sure it means a lot of different things to different people.

But then, you didn't react last time I asked either....

Well I said "murderer", and if the torturous court cases are any indication it is often up to debate whether a person is a murderer or not. But in order to function we come up with a label... such as OJ Simpson is a "murderer". Even though there may be disagreement if a particular person is a murderer or not the term is still useful to us.

For the definition, the best I can do without looking like a jerk is give links and excerpts.


"What is a Control Freak?
According to Dr. Les Parrott, founder and co-director of the Center for Relationship Development at Seattle Pacific University, and author of The Control Freak, a control freak is “anyone who cares more about something than you do and won’t stop being pushy to get their own way.”

Parrott adds that being a controller is not necessarily a negative thing. We admire self-control. We enjoy the wonderful feeling of finishing a long project. A neat and orderly office is more efficient. As Christians, we worship a God who knit order into the fabric of creation. In fact, almost everyone is a little controlling at times. As long as there is balance, control isn’t a problem.

What about those insulting, overbearing, demanding, got- to-have-it-my-way Archie Bunker types? Obviously, they are a problem. And while control freaks may be funny on a sitcom, dealing with an extreme controller on a daily basis is highly stressful.

Controlling Roots
“The primary cause of a control freak is anxiety,” Dr. Parrott explains. “The more anxious a person feels, the more likely it is that she will manage it through controlling behavior. The more in control she feels, the less anxiety she experiences.”

Michelle McKinney Hammond, well-known singer, speaker, and author states it another way, “A control freak is someone who is bound up in fear, and the only way they believe they can control their world is to control everyone else.”

and

"Controlling Signs:
Rigid/Demanding. Controllers have one way of doing things: their way. They believe they are the commanding general and everyone has to obey their orders, even if it means resorting to yelling or violence."

from

http://www.lifeway.com/lwc/article_m...200391,00.html

I won't necessarily support the rest of the article or the source in general, but what I pasted here I can pretty much agree with. The above covers most of what I am referring to. I could find excerpts covering other or more specific aspects of behavior but the more I post the more likely I am to needlessly offend someone somehow.

[Rodion Romanovich]

"thief" and "murderer" are purely descriptive terms that are clearly defined, while "bitch" is a derogatory trem that is used to label women - either in general or because their behaviour is not in line with how "women ought to behave" (at least according to some people).

So if you intend to continue the discussion in this thread I would advise you to refrain from just throwing around an offensive label.

For any further discussions regarding forum rules please feel free to PM me.

I always thought bitch was the word for a woman who don't allow people to have a free will and starts trying to hurt them, bully them and abuse her formal power against them in case they don't want to crawl in front of her and kiss her ***. Thus it has for me always been a derogatory but justified term describing a person with evil and intolerant behavior, much like murderer or thief. I think that's what Faust means. That "bitch" would be a word derogatory about all women I didn't have the slightest idea of, I must say. But if that's the case, then some other appropriate term might be useful in order to carry on the discussion... Edit: maybe that bitch can only refer to a woman is what causes it to be a disallowed word? Well then, control freak is probably a more general and exact term.

[Faust|]

"thief" and "murderer" are purely descriptive terms that are clearly defined, while "bitch" is a derogatory trem that is used to label women - either in general or because their behaviour is not in line with how "women ought to behave" (at least according to some people).

So if you intend to continue the discussion in this thread I would advise you to refrain from just throwing around an offensive label.

For any further discussions regarding forum rules please feel free to PM me.

Well I insist that being a control freak and a murderer have a common thread in the context in which it was brought up. Both are labels used to mark and characterize certain humans based on their behavior, both involve making a judgement upon a person, and both are certainly open to scrutiny. The context that it was brought up in was this: if you cannot ever label someone as a control freak, you cannot ever label someone as a murderer. Very simple, I'm not trying to go very far with this.

If you read the posts you'll see my intention is definitely not to be pushy and throw a derogatory label out every chance I get. But I think that would have been clarified in all my numerous previous defenses.

[Ser Clegane]

if you cannot ever label someone as a control freak, you cannot ever label someone as a murderer. Very simple, I'm not trying to go very far with this.

Nobody took exception at the term "control freak"

[Faust|]

In my mind the "derogatory" term was actually more explicit and accurate but I can see how it would strike a nerve. I meant it in the way Victrix suggested but I suppose it is better unused.

[doc_bean]

In my experience men tend to be bigger control freaks than women. Except when it comes to the household

“anyone who cares more about something than you do and won’t stop being pushy to get their own way.”

This works of course both ways, most men don't care about keeping a clean house for instance.


Now, there are women who seem to be extreme control freaks, who want to tell their men who they can talk to and spend time with. But I luckily don't have much experience with those

[Vladimir]

I thought you all would like a little bit of this...

spank me


Now be a good boy!