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    Default Re: 1,023 Foreign Prisoners Set Free Without Deportation

    i feel quite sorry for clarke, the problem was hardly his fault, and he seems to be the first home sec. to at least try to start to organize things, and sacking, or resigning him will only make the problem worse :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scurvy
    i feel quite sorry for clarke, the problem was hardly his fault, and he seems to be the first home sec. to at least try to start to organize things, and sacking, or resigning him will only make the problem worse :(
    Whilst many others are undoubtedly to blame for what happened, Charles Clarke must bear some of the responsibility. Of the 1,023 prisoners released without being considered for deportation, 288 were released after the Home Office was alerted to the problem. Such a large number indicates that the Home Secretary failed to act properly to resolve the problem, and as such he has to go. It also casts serious doubt over the claim by many in the Labour Party that Clarke is a good minister, and the most able minister to tackle the problem - if he was as competent as they say he is, then he would have sorted the problem out when he was alerted to it, not when it came to the attention of the media.
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    Default Re: 1,023 Foreign Prisoners Set Free Without Deportation

    I thought the number was more like 3500. But I dont remember where I saw the article.

    - 1,023 freed without being considered for deportation
    - 79 of them originally jailed for more serious crimes, including 13 of them for murder, manslaughter, rape or child sex offences
    - Five of them known to have committed offences since release - including violent disorder, drug crimes and grievous and actual bodily harm
    - Deportation action now started for 63 of the 79 more serious criminals
    - Officials have decided nine of the offenders should not be deported

    Also on a side note -
    Charles Clarke took more than three weeks to tell Tony Blair that serious criminals were among the foreign prisoners released, it has emerged
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcellus
    Whilst many others are undoubtedly to blame for what happened, Charles Clarke must bear some of the responsibility. Of the 1,023 prisoners released without being considered for deportation, 288 were released after the Home Office was alerted to the problem. Such a large number indicates that the Home Secretary failed to act properly to resolve the problem, and as such he has to go. It also casts serious doubt over the claim by many in the Labour Party that Clarke is a good minister, and the most able minister to tackle the problem - if he was as competent as they say he is, then he would have sorted the problem out when he was alerted to it, not when it came to the attention of the media.
    how many competent ministers can you think of?

    i agree he should take some of the blame (i didnt realize he had known that long and toaken so long to tell blair)

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    Well, Clarke's been sacked. Not particularly surprising, really.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4975938.stm
    "Look I’ve got my old pledge card a bit battered and crumpled we said we’d provide more turches churches teachers and we have I can remember when people used to say the Japanese are better than us the Germans are better than us the French are better than us well it’s great to be able to say we’re better than them I think Mr Kennedy well we all congratulate on his baby and the Tories are you remembering what I’m remembering boom and bust negative equity remember Mr Howard I mean are you thinking what I’m thinking I’m remembering it’s all a bit wonky isn’t it?"

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    Mmm, but two shags is still in the cabinet even though, err, he doesn't actually have a job any more.

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    No...I won't have that!!!...Prescott is a real working class guy, after all he must be down to his last £ 1, 000, 000.. A true working class hero.

    This is whats always been wrong with the present administration, millionaires, one and all.

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    Default Re: 1,023 Foreign Prisoners Set Free Without Deportation

    He is working class:

    He grasps power rather than tries to achieve results
    He even went to a UN food conference and insisted on a plush hotel etc etc. His perceived stature is so important to him (and he is so insicure of it) he can't let it rest for anything.

    Money has nothing to do with what class he is. Giving things to him is throwing pearls at swine.

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