EB Preview :: De Auxiliis Romanis

[Scott]

WOW
Is there anymore calvary units?

BTW I don't very much about Roman history but is there a differnce btween legions and Auxillia?

[Imperator of rome]

Roman Auxilia replaced the allied units of a classic legion.They are essentially people from other lands who fight in the legions for citizenship while legionarries have citizenship.Auxilia didn't have up to date weapons or armor like the legionarries did but in my opinion the arms the auxilia had were good.Eventually after the praetorians were destroyed by I think Constatine,auxilia actually became the elite soldiers of a roman army.As you see in EB,I think roman legionarries have the Italic helm and Lorica Hamata(chainmail),Gladius hisp while according to the text above the Auxilia use the outdated monteferro helm which was used by Republican legions and good quality army(Squamata or Hamata)plus the old hasta used by old republican legion by the Triarii and Pricipes.Auxilia were made to fill the roles the romans didn't specialize in such as Cavalry.

[paullus]

Great work! The browser pics for the aedes and templum are just beautiful. And its great to see the auxilia working into the picture now...the alae look great. Any chance of getting something like its chainmail on the cohors validum? Or did they not use the shoulder pieces?

And finally, THANK YOU (for the preview, the mod, etc)

[Imperator of rome]

It's ok,the squamata or scalemail were used by the Eastern empire on its legionarries so I think the eastern auxilia looks good.

[Dooz]

Superb. Not much to say.

[AntiochusIII]

Awesome! Now I have something to wait for to return to Rome once again.

Eventually after the praetorians were destroyed by I think Constatine,auxilia actually became the elite soldiers of a roman army.

Actually, the man who disbanded the Praetorians was Septimius Severus, I think, because of their disintegration into a group of armed rabbles led often by unscrupulous men of ambition who seemed to not hesitate to use the Praetorians against Rome (the citizens, Senate, and city) time and again.

He replaced them with other kinds of bodyguards, I'm not sure what kind. But since then the Roman Emperors favoured German cavalry bodyguards.

BTW I don't very much about Roman history but is there a differnce btween legions and Auxillia?

A Legionary is a Roman citizen, and in earlier times Roman citizenship was severely restricted, and the growing circles were not growing as fast as the Republic--the Italians had to fight against their allies the Romans to finally gain recognition. And Roman citizenship after that would be limited for a very long time until Emperor Caracalla universalized it.

Auxilia were not Roman citizens, but they fought for the Roman army either as directly recruited units or under allied commanders. They were just a sort of a concept that includes both the traditional allies and Roman tendencies to use other peoples' expertise the way the Mongols used Chinese engineers in the sieges across the world.

Auxilia would replace Legionary as the "backbone" of the Roman armies only in the Late Empire because of the Legion's--and the Empire's--severe decline. By that timeframe Roman armies were often made up of "Foederati" (sp?), which were often allied barbarian tribes anyway. Several elite units of auxilia existed long before that timeframe, of course, especially as individual generals and Emperors preferred them to potentially disloyal Romans.

[Imperator of rome]

Do you have any site showing info about the decline of the Praetorian guard?I
'm just interested in learning more info about it.Nevermind I found it,totally right think you for informing me about this(The entire praetorian guard, discredited by the murder of Pertinax and the auctioning of their support to Julianus, was dismissed.).

[Kralizec]

Constantine disbanded them. They turned against him and after defeating them, he realized the futility of trusting them any further, so there...

Nope the phalanx phased out with the romans a long time ago,its just a spearman unit.

Look how they hold their spears in that picture.

[jedispongee]

http://roman-empire.net/

Good site for general and encompassing aspects of Roman history. Look around and you'll find what happens.

[Avicenna]

Eventually after the praetorians were destroyed by I think Constatine,auxilia actually became the elite soldiers of a roman army.As you see in EB,I think roman legionarries have the Italic helm and Lorica Hamata(chainmail),Gladius hisp while according to the text above the Auxilia use the outdated monteferro helm which was used by Republican legions and good quality army(Squamata or Hamata)plus the old hasta used by old republican legion by the Triarii and Pricipes.

But the Praetorians largely remained in Italia (and of course Constantinople), so how did their disbanding by Constantine change anything in the army? As far as I know all they did was protect the capital, the emperor and occasionally sell the Empire to others, or sell the emperor's death. Constantine didn't need their changing sides to show him that: history shows him that well enough, with most emperors dying by the Praetorians or having to give them 'gifts' every now and then to secure their own safety. The Scholae Palantinae became the defenders of the Emperor then, right?

NB: the Constantine I'm referring to is Constantine the Great who legalised Christianity if you're not sure.

BTW, didn't the legionaries use the [i]lorica segmentata[/b]?

[edyzmedieval]

They indeed used the Lorica Segmentata....

When's the next preview?

[Forgus]

Not in our timeframe though. These days lorica hamata (sometimes squamata and plumata) rules supreme.

[Dayve]

Can we see pre-Marian allied soldiers in the next preview?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Next preview will probably be a mix of units (if I had to guess). It all depends on what we have in reserve (i.e., that we haven't shown) and what comes in over the next week or two.

[Imperator of rome]

[QUOTE=edyzmedieval]They indeed used the Lorica Segmentata....

Only for a brief period,the hamata or squamata was used more.

[Dayve]

Squamata sounds funny when you say it out loud...

[Imperator of rome]

This why I will never say it out aloud in my life

[Birka Viking]

Realy nice work EB..Cant wait to play it to patch 1.5 comes out.lol