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    This angers me assainslte its not that hard
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    oh wait, those guys are the nutty ones,
    Stop it Soly , how dare you . Ok fair enough some people wish to focus ona small group of extremist nuts to labbel every possible protest down to a bunch of nuts as it makes it easier to dodge the issue , but that is their right ,just like it is everone elses right to turn round and say they is talking bollox .
    It is exactly the same as taking a statement from the Aryan nations and saying "this is the viewpoint" .

    Don my darling (but not in a gay way Hello pot, this is kettle, you're black


    How exactly?
    You came across some dumb bog-trotter (yes that is offensive and I use the expression very often towards racist gobshites at work or down the pub) down in Killarney ,who probably considers people from the next parish as foriegners , or even people from the other end of the same parish as creatures with two heads .
    And try and corelate it to my statements .... well sorry but in that concern this pot or kettle is working on clean electric and ain't getting tarnished by smoke .
    So try something else , it is always possible to come back from the backfoot , as long as you stop insisting that the backfoot is really the frontfoot .

    Edit to add ..This angers me assainslte its not that hard
    well its clearly too hard to undertand Strike , what does assainslte mean ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    [Edit to add ..This angers me assainslte its not that hard
    well its clearly too hard to undertand Strike , what does assainslte mean ?
    1 - It's a reply to (English) Assassin.
    2 - Assainslte is Spanglish slang which we're not expected to understand anyway.
    3 - Ainslte is his boyfriend, who can't get it up: "This angers me ass, Ainslte. It's not that hard".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
    1 - It's a reply to (English) Assassin.
    2 - Assainslte is Spanglish slang which we're not expected to understand anyway.
    3 - Inslte is his boyfriend, who can't get it up: "This angers me ass, Inslte. It's not that hard".
    LOL.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    It is exactly the same as taking a statement from the Aryan nations and saying "this is the viewpoint" .
    We share the same vission I see.
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    assimallate. is everyone happy
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    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    assimallate. is everyone happy
    Not really, though I think I can guess now. I find this inability to communicate hilarious in the context of a thread on the 'ownership' of language.
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    Man I went to MCD's today for lunch. Not only could I understand the cashier, but I got my food fast and accurately. These mexicans need to protest the other 364 days of the year!!! God bless those protestors, keep up the good work!!!
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    taik arr jooobs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
    Man I went to MCD's today for lunch. Not only could I understand the cashier, but I got my food fast and accurately. These mexicans need to protest the other 364 days of the year!!! God bless those protestors, keep up the good work!!!
    Huh, so I'm not the only one that noticed this? Fast food service has been declining but out here with the hispanic workers it's horrible. I asked for a water at least a couple of times and the chick gave me coffee. WTMF? That was just one of a long string of related and crappy service incidents at that restaurant and others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573
    The problem is that for 200 years the English tried to stamp out the French via strangulation. Then 40 years ago the English majority went "You can be French it's cool." Both groups are still adapting to the new reality that we are going to coexist without one stamping on the other.
    Yeah, that's about right, if only ignoring the Acadians a little. Giving me the timeline to the culture relations doesn't invalidate my point, though.

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    “Then 40 years ago the English majority went "You can be French it's cool."
    Hum, and also few bombs and terrorism from the French Canadians if I remember well.
    This text is coming from a probably pro-independence site. However, the chronoly of the 1970’s is correct.

    “By the time the 1960s arrived, French culture and language was under assault in Quebec. Many people of French heritage in Quebec couldn’t speak the language; the Roman Catholic Church was under assault, as were the French institutions such as education and law that were fundamentally different from those of their Anglo counterparts. Must as the United States had its own Cultural Revolution in the 1960s, Quebec did as well. In Quebec, there was a revival of the French language and French culture. This revolution naturally led to a revival of Quebec nationalism. This Quebec nationalism was fuelled by the 1967 visit of French President Charles de Gaulle when he proclaimed “Vive le Quebec Libre!” (Long Live Free Quebec!). This led to the founding of the separatist Parti Quebecois by Rene Levesque. Two years later, militants create a crisis in Quebec during which civil liberties were suspended in Quebec. A bombing campaign, the kidnapping of a British diplomat, and other events led to this. This was really the high point of anti-Unionist violence in Quebec.
    Following the turbulent early seventies, the movement toward Quebec independence grew more peaceful. In 1980, there was a referendum for Quebec independence. Though it failed by a 3-2 margin, it showed that there was in fact significant support for an independent Quebec state (nearly half of the French-speaking Quebecois voted in favour of independence). At this point, the rest of Canada realized that secession was a real possibility. Proposals were initiated that would amend Canada’s 1982 Constitution that would recognize Quebec as a distinct society within Canada. In 1987, this Meech Lake Accord was drafted. However, in 1990, this Meech Lake Accord failed to gain ratification. It was at this point that many Quebec nationalists vowed that Quebec would in fact gain its independence.
    In 1994, Jacques Parizeau won the premiership (governorship) of Quebec on a platform of promising a referendum on Quebec independence. This vote occurred in 1995. In the weeks leading up to the referendum, polls were indicating that the people of Quebec would in fact vote for independence. At that point, government owned agencies (including Air Canada) offered pro-Unionists incentives to go and vote for continued union with Canada. As a result of this corruption on the pro-Union side, the referendum was defeated by a 50.6 to 49.4% margin. I remember at that time, as a Quebecois-American, the despair that both myself felt as well as friends of mine in Athens who were natives of Quebec. We thought that our homeland would finally be free, but alas the Unionists plotted to keep Quebec firmly under the yoke of Canada.
    Quebec is indeed a nation. The people of Quebec speak a different language, practice a different religious faith, have different legal and educational institutions, and have a different culture than the rest of Canada. This certainly is enough to define Quebec as a nation. As a forced member of Canada, it can also be classified as a captive-nation. This is much the same status that was granted the nations captured by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Until Quebec achieves its independence from Canada, it will continue to be a captive nation and will be an abomination to the North American continent until it finally is able to claim its independence and join the global family of free and independent nations.
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    I couldn't give a damn about the sanctity of the Queen's english, but anyone who knowingly purchases anything from any business that hires these illegals is an out right scab.

    "The meat packers are confirming what we know," says University of Maryland economics professor Peter Morici, "and that is that this large group of illegal aliens in the United States is lowering the wage rate of semiskilled workers, people who are high school dropouts or high school graduates with minimal training."

    In fact, a meat-packing job paid $19 an hour in 1980, but today that same job pays closer to $9 an hour, according to the Labor Department. That's entirely consistent with what we've been reporting -- that illegal aliens depress wages for U.S. workers by as much as $200 billion a year in addition to placing a tremendous burden on hospitals, schools and other social services.

    Radicalism is not confined to Gutierrez and Latino Movement USA. Ernesto Nevarez of the L.A. Port Collective is promising to shut down the Port of Los Angeles today: "[Transportation and commerce] will come to a grinding halt. ...They are going to put a wall along the border with Mexico. We're going to put a wall between us and the ocean. And those containers ain't going to move."
    http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/01/dob...grantprotests/

    ROFL, you can thank the party that's supposed to be protecting the little guys from the evil capitolists for the bolded text. Way to out do the Republicans with whoring your own principles and ideals. Next they'll be clamoring for another minimum wage hike!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus
    “Then 40 years ago the English majority went "You can be French it's cool."
    Hum, and also few bombs and terrorism from the French Canadians if I remember well.
    This text is coming from a probably pro-independence site. However, the chronoly of the 1970’s is correct.

    “In 1994, Jacques Parizeau won the premiership (governorship) of Quebec on a platform of promising a referendum on Quebec independence. This vote occurred in 1995. In the weeks leading up to the referendum, polls were indicating that the people of Quebec would in fact vote for independence. At that point, government owned agencies (including Air Canada) offered pro-Unionists incentives to go and vote for continued union with Canada. As a result of this corruption on the pro-Union side, the referendum was defeated by a 50.6 to 49.4% margin. I remember at that time, as a Quebecois-American, the despair that both myself felt as well as friends of mine in Athens who were natives of Quebec. We thought that our homeland would finally be free, but alas the Unionists plotted to keep Quebec firmly under the yoke of Canada.”
    Yeah, the bias is obvious.

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    I am undecided on the matter, I must say... as far as I am concerned someone doesn't have to learn the official tongue of the state he emigrated to, as long as he is prepared to be very limited in his ability to partake in public life.

    However -- is this public or private life? I don't know yet...
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    Except, they demand government services in spanish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Except, they demand government services in spanish.

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    They also demand that the local businesses speak spanish also. They've sue'd because state forms in Texas were not printed in spanish, and might I remind you English is the official language of the Great State of Texas. Now their demanding that they receive amnesty. And todays theres this wonderful protest called the "day without the criminals", nothing like millions of these idiots walking out on all those jobs they've come here for. Apparently they think that congress will help those they don't represent.

    I sure hope my faith in my countries laws are restored and patty wagons start showing up at these "protests". The jobs almost done for Ice and the local government, all they have to do is round them into cars and move them back to mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoreBag
    Yeah, that's about right, if only ignoring the Acadians a little. Giving me the timeline to the culture relations doesn't invalidate my point, though.
    And I'm saying that the assimilation of bilingualism is going to have to be done by both sides.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus
    Hum, and also few bombs and terrorism from the French Canadians if I remember well.
    Actually the bombs and terrorism came after the first billingual act of parliment.

    Taken from the Government of Canada's website. http://www.canadianheritage.gc.ca/pr...ing/hist_e.cfm

    1969

    Following the work of the Commission, the first Official Languages Act is adopted by Parliament. Its three main objectives are:
    the equality of English and French in Parliament, within the Government of Canada, the federal administration and institutions subject to the Act;
    the preservation and development of official language communities in Canada ;
    the equality of English and French in Canadian society.

    New Brunswick enacts its first Official Languages Act , making it Canada 's first, and only, officially bilingual province.
    EDIT:Also Quebec is not a viable independant nation.
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    Hail Presidente Fox! Viva la Mexico! Viva Santa Ana!
    *does Mexican Hat dance and eats a taco*

    See? I'm assimilating already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Except, they demand government services in spanish.
    At this point you've two courses of action, deportation or assimilation, giving up to their demands. However I don't think that the first is reasonable. The second is reasonable to a certain point, what you say they are demanding is too much, since the hispanic popullation doesn't pass from %20 of the total. Ok, even I would agree that they've crossed a certain sane limit.
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    So how was No-Mexican-Labour-Day ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    So how was No-Mexican-Labour-Day ?
    It was a great day, people actually came into the store who could speak english. Only had fired 3 dumbarses yesterday for not showing up. It was also very quite on the roads which was a wonderful change. Now if this is how it would be without criminal immigrants then I say wonderful, lets get them the heck out of here and the sooner the better. Yesterday was one incredibly stressless day, without having to play the guess what I'm trying to say game, or hassle with traffic.
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    Well I've always wanted to be a sexy latino, like Antonio Banderas (who really is Spanish and Not Latino) but all the same. I guess my dreams are becoming realized, I'm just going to have to start taking Spanish in College next year and work on my accent. Then the Ladies will be mine (after I get shot by my Girlfriend).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi
    Well I've always wanted to be a sexy latino, like Antonio Banderas (who really is Spanish and Not Latino) but all the same. I guess my dreams are becoming realized, I'm just going to have to start taking Spanish in College next year and work on my accent. Then the Ladies will be mine (after I get shot by my Girlfriend).
    Don't forget to knock her up first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    So how was No-Mexican-Labour-Day ?
    A media write up on it.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060502/...tkBHNlYwM3MTg-

    What I find somewhat humorous is that where I work the workforce consists of roughly 30% Hispanic, all meeting the citizenship (as I must also) or are documented immirgants with a legal right to work in the United States. And none of them called in for the boycott day.

    In fact several of the recently immigrants who have gained their citizenship through the correct process - think that the issue is being way overblown by those who need to follow the process, and not make demands because they came here illegally.

    Interesting discussion I had with one of them. I wonder if there will be a split in the immigration issues posed by the Hispanic community if such protests continue?
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573


    EDIT:Also Quebec is not a viable independant nation.
    (Sorry. OT)

    I disagree, Quebec is extremely viable as an independent nation. It is the size of half of Europe, has tremendous natural resources, top notch hospitals, universities, economic and political infrastructures, a world class work force with first rate aerospace and computer industries, as well as a vibrant and healthy culture and artistic community.

    On the other hand, viability as an independent nation does not mean it should be one. Many states and provinces would do fine as independent countries. BC, Alberta, California, Texas, to name a few. But their being part of a greater whole is better. Though that viewpoint appears to be subjective to many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone
    For the non-Spanish speakers among you, it would appear that latino immigrants, no longer simply content to speak in Spanish, have made a new national anthem, in Spanish, 'based closely' on the Star Spangled Banner. Apparently, some English language lines will be inserted in a version due out in June, scolding people who support immigration controls.

    So, to those of you who say 'they're not trying to take over'... let me ask you... when a forgeign invader starts altering your national symbols, and altering the are they still really 'just trying to get along?'

    It's OUR National Anthem now!!!

    If they were translating the Star Spangled Banner into Spanish directly, I wouldn't have anywhere near the problem with this. But who gave them the right to alter it? We're supposed to just lay down and let Mexico dictate not only our immigration policies, but now also our national anthem is dictated to us by Mexcicans!


    Don, Sjakihata,

    these people are Aliens. They came here Illgealy,rather you people want to admit it or not. They crying like Babies to make them US Citizins.. They sohlud come here the Legal and Right Way, Just like Everyone,or Most people did. if not,mabye we should just shoot them or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHCWarman88
    these people are Aliens. They came here Illgealy,rather you people want to admit it or not. They crying like Babies to make them US Citizins.. They sohlud come here the Legal and Right Way, Just like Everyone,or Most people did. if not,mabye we should just shoot them or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHCWarman88
    if not,mabye we should just shoot them or something.
    A lovely sentiment. Please don't share it with us again.
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    So, Raul....er... Beirut, how is it up in Quebec? Have you guys started the Canadian Civil War yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia
    So, Raul....er... Beirut, how is it up in Quebec? Have you guys started the Canadian Civil War yet
    Care to expand upon that?
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