Callete! Este es nuestro pais y nuestro himno nacional ahora!!!

[Divinus Arma]

I couldn't give a damn about the sanctity of the Queen's english, but anyone who knowingly purchases anything from any business that hires these illegals is an out right scab.



http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/01/dob...grantprotests/

ROFL, you can thank the party that's supposed to be protecting the little guys from the evil capitolists for the bolded text. Way to out do the Republicans with whoring your own principles and ideals. Next they'll be clamoring for another minimum wage hike!

Great contribution Proly. I completely agree. Americans are gettin it...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

One in the pink, and one in the stink.

[AntiochusIII]

So, Raul....er... Beirut, how is it up in Quebec? Have you guys started the Canadian Civil War yet

There's no Canadian Civil War event in HOI2...

Damn I want one, curse those bloody partisans! All the bloodshed with the USA and a march on Washington only for a Canadian revolt to break it all down...

Sorry, the Doomsday fever got me bad.

Of this thread I have not so much to say, but that there is an incredible amount of idiocy expressed by normally-wise members of this intelligent community. Anything else I've said would've been equally worthless except for a statement that I truly doubt there is even a clear position taking by "either side of the fence," and that it is just all loud stuff for fun in the news and on the streets, created by increasing tension and all that crap, a good habit for Democracy! Actually it really is!

How disappointing...

By the way, the funniest thing of all this was when I (more accurately, my mom, while I'm playing...er...Doomsday) was watching CNN with that Anderson Cooper guy reporting and all the flags of colourful nature, be it the stars and stripes or the green and red that reminds me of Italy, were flying around in the background, a classic Che Guevara flag was waved around and filled out the background!

[Divinus Arma]

Removed. Not my place or the proper way to do business.

[Beirut]

I love you lumberjack...

[lars573]

(Sorry. OT)

I disagree, Quebec is extremely viable as an independent nation. It is the size of half of Europe, has tremendous natural resources, top notch hospitals, universities, economic and political infrastructures, a world class work force with first rate aerospace and computer industries, as well as a vibrant and healthy culture and artistic community.

On the other hand, viability as an independent nation does not mean it should be one. Many states and provinces would do fine as independent countries. BC, Alberta, California, Texas, to name a few. But their being part of a greater whole is better. Though that viewpoint appears to be subjective to many.

Take away Montreal and what's left?

[Fragony]

Kewl, america is becomming just like europe

[Beirut]

Take away Montreal and what's left?

An enormous land mass with huge amounts of fresh water, plenty of excellent farm land, almost immeasurable natural resources, and roughly four million people to take advantage of it.

To be honest, you'd have to be an idiot not to be able to make a country out of Quebec.

[BigTex]

Originally posted by BHCWarman88
if not,mabye we should just shoot them or something.

Originally posted by BigTex
That would be to costly. In Iraq for every enemy killed there's and expenditure of 200,000 bullets. Now there's 20 million illegal immigrants in the USA. So for the sake of argument say there's a 10,000 to 1 kill/bullet ratio, that would require 2,000,000,000,000 bullets. Each round of M-16 5.56mmx45mm ammunition costs around .52 cents. The total cost would come to $1,040,000,000,000 just to get rid of the current number of illegals in this country. Thats not including the people who will try to cross in the future. Unfeasible to shoot them all.

Now Tribesman did mention something about Zyclon B though you might be interested in.

It seems like the sentiments from those in Europe or in the Northeast are this problem is just occurring now. Well it hasnt, the problem has been in the south western states for over a decade. Its only now that its nationally known problem. Monday was quite a nice day, I'd just wish it was like this the rest of the time.



Everybody loves BigTex.

[Beirut]

Now Tribesman did mention something about Zyclon B though you might be interested in.

Gentlemen,

Please leave mass shootings and Zyclon B out of discussions pertaining to identifiable groups of people.

[lars573]

An enormous land mass with huge amounts of fresh water, plenty of excellent farm land, almost immeasurable natural resources, and roughly four million people to take advantage of it.

To be honest, you'd have to be an idiot not to be able to make a country out of Quebec.

That is why Quebec could never be made into a viable country. The seperatist leaders are all idiots.

[Devastatin Dave]

Well, the Beaner in Chief sang the Anthem in Spanish during his campaign to lie his way back into power....
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash7.htm
Face it, neither party is going to do anything about this invasion, instead they'll just change the subject to Bird Flu, abortion, flag burning, dwarf tossing, or some other imaginary outrage that the media can masterbate to in order to distract the public from the real problems in our everyday lives. Yawn...

[Divinus Arma]

DD, not if we keep up the heat. This is not a fly-by-night issue. Honestly, how long have you been informed and angry about illegal immigration? I have been pissed for years.

The chief complaint I hear now is but there is nothing I can do.

Yes there is. Send a quick email to your house representative and both Senators, as well as Frist and Boehner. Then, and equally as important, tell everyone you know who cares to do the same thing. Make sure that they also tell everyone they know, and so on.

If all of us who actually careed stopped whining and started doing something, the politicians would hear the low roar.

I already wrote my congresswoman, Bill Frist, and John Boehner and let them know that if they vote for temporary worker status that does not force illegals to return home first, then I will ditch the GOP and stay out of policy until someone sounds the trumpets that I want to hear.

There is one answer to this problem: (1) Punish employers so heavily that they will be truly scared to employ illegals. Concentrate on internal enforcement. This takes care of the demand for labor. (2) Conduct actual regulation of the border. Build a wall (physical or tech-based) and stop the inflow. This stops the anchor baby droppers. (3) Open opportunities for legal immigration. This way we get the labor we need from people who want to be Americans.


Get vocal, get involved, and get others to join you. We can still save our country.

[Devastatin Dave]

Yes there is. Send a quick email to your house representative and both Senators, as well as Frist and Boehner. Then, and equally as important, tell everyone you know who cares to do the same thing. Make sure that they also tell everyone they know, and so on.

My senators are Turbin Durbin and Barrack "Osama" Obama. They have my IP blocked!!!

[Louis VI the Fat]

DD, not if we keep up the heat.

Aye, that seems the only way.

For many white and Afro-Americans, (illegal) immigration has been just another issue. Like Bird Flu, abortion, flag burning or dwarf tossing indeed. Most won't base their vote on this particular issue.

For Latino-Americans this issue is much higher on the list. One of the key issues on which they base their political allegiance. Combine that with them being concentrated in a handful of key states - California, Texas and Florida are steadily becoming unwinnable without the Latino vote - and it becomes clear how some ten to twelve percent of the electorate can hijack an issue against the wishes of a vast majority of the remaining ninety percent.

The reluctancy which both parties have shown over this issue is entirely rational. The only way out is indeed what you suggested - to get more vocal, to turn up the heat and keep it up.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Don't forget to knock her up first.

I didn't know Wakizashi was from West Virginia.....


Couldn't resist.

[lars573]

Hey, you gotta have a damn good reason before you plug someone.

I mean "Argh you took $5 without asking!" *BLAM*, uh no.


"Argh you made me an unwed mother at 17!!", then it's time to stack the 9 and go for the knees. *As if you hit him below the waist it's not attempted murder.

[Redleg]

Hey, you gotta have a damn good reason before you plug someone.

I mean "Argh you took $5 without asking!" *BLAM*, uh no.


"Argh you made me an unwed mother at 17!!", then it's time to stack the 9 and go for the knees. *As if you hit him below the waist it's not attempted murder.

Actually you don't need a damn good reason to shot someone. You only need a good reason if you don't want to go to jail.

And whoever told you about shooting someone below the waste does not equate to attempted murder needs to check the statues based upon country and in the United States by state. Attempted murder has different definitions by legal jursidication.

[Strike For The South]

At this point you've two courses of action, deportation or assimilation, .

No these people are here illegaly. They arent citzens they do not share the same rights. Now deporting them may be a pipe dream but if we crack down on buisnesses like there is no tommorow they wont be able to get jobs and they will leave or become 11 million homeless people then the poloticans will be forced to do something

[Samurai Waki]

I didn't know Wakizashi was from West Virginia.....


Couldn't resist.

Grrr. I'll knock you up. I um mean...

Vinnie get the test tubes. we have to expirement.

[lars573]

Actually you don't need a damn good reason to shot someone. You only need a good reason if you don't want to go to jail.

And whoever told you about shooting someone below the waste does not equate to attempted murder needs to check the statues based upon country and in the United States by state. Attempted murder has different definitions by legal jursidication.

You need to get yourself a real sense of humour stat! And get a real justice system where the same laws apply everywhere.

[Redleg]

You need to get yourself a real sense of humour stat! And get a real justice system where the same laws apply everywhere.

LOL -

The pot calling the kettle black....

[lars573]

Hey this immigration thing needs some levity. Wakizashi started it I say we keep going.

[Redleg]

Hey this immigration thing needs some levity. Wakizashi started it I say we keep going.

LOL nice try

[lars573]

It was wasn't it.

[GoreBag]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

One in the pink, and one in the stink.

Doesn't sound so bad...

[BHCWarman88]

No these people are here illegaly. They arent citzens they do not share the same rights. Now deporting them may be a pipe dream but if we crack down on buisnesses like there is no tommorow they wont be able to get jobs and they will leave or become 11 million homeless people then the poloticans will be forced to do something

Extacly. if you can't realize these people are here Illegaly and don't have the same rights as us, tell me why we should go easy on them?