What should prison be like?

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 05-02-2006, 02:03

Lock them in a room with one of the following three guys.

**Soulforged** · 05-02-2006, 03:20

Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

Lock them in a room with one of the following three guys.

Hell, the second guy is even creepier than Mike. Who is he Capo?

**Major Robert Dump** · 05-02-2006, 04:30

This thread and that website make me very uncomfortable, very angry. It's shameful that wer send nonviolent drug offenders to these prison in a drug war that is unwinnable and never changes, just as its shameful that private prison companies spend millions lobbying for mandatory minimums for drug offenses. Meanwhile, people who financially pilfer the lives of others through blue collar crimes arent sent to live with the rapists and the killers, they are sent to summer camp

The US Prison System, and the War on Drugs, is yet another example of how the Baby Boomers failed their kids. This is a mistake that is so bad, so deep, that fixing it is going to take a long time, and will only be facilitated by someone in government with balls, someone who is a true believer.

It's easy to turn ones head and pretend its not a problem, especially if in ones cozy little world none of this effects one.

**Joker85** · 05-02-2006, 08:49

The fact that crap like that goes on in prison is more a lack of concern on the part of staff/guards than an inability to prevent it. Doing a little reading around it seems the prevailing attitude there is "if you can't fight back don't come crying to us you deserved it".

It seems only in prison is it acceptable to tell a rape victim "too bad next time fight better". If they started prosecuting every single incident of violence in prison the same way they did on the outside this would become a lot less common. If there is a 90% chance of getting another 10+ years added to someone's sentence chances are they won't risk it.

New prisons also need to be designed in such a way that all areas are observable by guards, and those areas where inmates are allowed to congregate have 24/7 video recording as well.

It looks like as it stands now, if you go to certain prisons for really no matter how much time you'll either come out a savage much better at doing the things that got you put there than you were before you entered, or a traumatized victim with unimaginable demons repressed just waiting to blow up on society.

**Fragony** · 05-02-2006, 09:04

The idea of prison is to take a set amount of years from someone's life. Rehabilitation and education is fine and all, but if their time spend with a lovesick bubba is nasty enough they will do anything not to get there again. If they do anyway they are probably unfit for society and are exactly where they belong. Some people just can't be helped.

**Faust|** · 05-02-2006, 10:10

Originally Posted by Fragony

The idea of prison is to take a set amount of years from someone's life. Rehabilitation and education is fine and all, but if their time spend with a lovesick bubba is nasty enough they will do anything not to get there again. If they do anyway they are probably unfit for society and are exactly where they belong. Some people just can't be helped.

Not all criminal acts are antisocial. This means you are thowing in good and productive citizens and members of society into prison where they may have to fight armed prisoners or get raped numerous times, maybe acquiring a death sentence in AIDS.

**rory_20_uk** · 05-02-2006, 12:02

If I thought I'd have to have cups of tea with Jag if I went into jail I'd be a Model Citizen...

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 05-03-2006, 02:28

Originally Posted by Soulforged

Hell, the second guy is even creepier than Mike. Who is he Capo?

Garry Glitter, famous British rocker who is imprisoned in Singapore for Child Molestation.

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 05-03-2006, 03:30

The question - can we harness them as military manpower?

**Soulforged** · 05-03-2006, 04:33

Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good

The question - can we harness them as military manpower?

Why not? And then send them like cannon fodder.

**Samurai Waki** · 05-03-2006, 05:09

Great men of the United States Republic, you are here to prove that you are men. The Forces of our enemy are great indeed, but they have only numbers, you have the courage and the will to overcome them, not to mention the superior equipment. Our new motto is "not one step back", one man shall recieve a rifle, the other a clip, when the man in front of you loses his rifle you take it and continue foreward. Retreat will result in your death as a traitor to our great state, victory or death will result in your name being heralded for generations to come. Which one will you choose? Fight a man, or die a coward? You have been sent here to prove that you are of more use than recieving anal rape in the American Prison System. Now Fight for Glory and Honor!
-Komissar Wakizashi, June 23rd 2022
The Assault on Duchiestan.

**English assassin** · 05-03-2006, 10:12

Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

Garry Glitter, famous British rocker who is imprisoned in Singapore for Child Molestation.

Ironically in view of his legal difficulties, Gary Glitter is also cockney rhyming slang for...well, a part of the body that Gary himself allegedly enjoys although not in the way God intended... (Clue: you need your Gary to do a Richard)

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**rory_20_uk** · 05-03-2006, 10:50

Penal legions... there's an idea.

I think that suicidal missions are not required. There are enough bad ones already. E.G. mine clearance.

And they've got a choice: listen to the teacher, or in 1 month's time they are going to Cambodia/Afghanistan/wherever trained or not. They have a quota of mines to safely diffuse and then their tour is done. The number of mines depends on the crime of course.

Other tasks like lugging aid to dangerous areas could be given. Say a 5 man team with one soldier overseeing.

The best can afterwards join the army proper, or possibly be pointed to wards a mercenary outfit. They are violent people. No point in pretending otherwise, so use the skills.