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    Default Re: What should prison be like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soulforged
    All those purposes can be grouped in the first two. The third is exactly what you don't like (and I either for that matter) but some judges do: "retribution".
    No it isn't. Retribution is an emotional response. Exclusion is purely functional. While a person is in prison he or she can technically not reoffend (with exceptions). Thus excluding people who are prone to harm society is a means to protect society. This has nothing to do with retribution, it could rather be compared to quarantine.

    It is all a thin veneer over thousands of years of evolution. People that repeatedly act as though the veneer has been removed should be treated as such.
    There is no veneer of evolution, at least if you look at evolution of genes and memes. But I understand your reasoning. I understand it but reject it, because I do not think that it is beneficial for society. What would we gain from treating criminals like they treat others? You cannot discourage violent behavior by being violent. Our society would only become more martial, rather decreasing our safety.

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    stop incarceration by stopping crime, stop crime by stopping criminals, stop criminals when they are young, junior high or highschool preferably, take a little looky looky into the permenant records and see who the most likely trouble makers are, identify there problem as best as possible (no father, terrible living conditions, drunkard/workoholic parents) and try to remedy these as quick as possible sparing no expence, if they still end up bad then do this.

    *drug users put into forced rehab and cover arms in rubber cement (unpeircable by needles )
    *rapists you put in jail solitary confindment with no human contact except sensativity training, and when they leave tattoo a large green R on there forearm indicating rapist, if they do it again immediat life imprisonment.
    *child molestation: immediate and indiscriminatory deportation
    *murder 2 goes to prisons not unlike those today but more heavily guarded, and more punishment for misbehaving (less recration time, cut rations) and once again the blue M, for murder, second offence is death.
    *murder one is to be put into immediate solitary confindment and to be given no human contact or sympathy for the first 3 years then given 1-3 hours recreation time and asttemp to teach them a skill., still no inmate contact. when they leave jail administer the red M, to do it again is death.

    what can i say, if it were really up to me i would give unto them all the pain that they gave there victim, but thast would be torture, not that they don't deserve torture, but i have to make this at least a little socially acceptable.

    but really just torture the f***in c***-sucking b****es.
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    Nice rehab schpiel.

    First a tremendous breach in personal liberties with datamining the individual's past.
    Second, what if the parents refuse?
    Third, expense. The money has to come from somewhere and to be seen to be doing some good. Else the "I'll mis-behave to get more attention / free holiday"

    Drug users inject into all viens. Then tissue. Then sometimes even the eyeballs.
    Child molesters deport where? Vietnam??

    But nice to hear otherwise your views are restrained...

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    I'm sure that he will get a few wood shampoos from the guards every day!(hopefully) It's when they thump you over the head with their baton

    I am pro death penalty but not for this guy, they need to keep him alive and make life hell for em'.
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