Quote Originally Posted by x-dANGEr
Yes Puzz3D, but he means againts 10 Desert cav and 10 chariots..
Yes OK. So, that would work. Back on topic, the Cantabrian circle does seem rather black and white. I remember using a foot archer to shoot at a Cantabrian circle and I didn't get any kills using all my arrows. On top of that the horse archer is getting battlefield upgrades to it's melee weapon for the kills it gets, and those kills were considerable being my entire foot archer as I recall.

In BI, there is a Hunic horse archer which is very strong in melee and can beat light cav upgraded to equal cost. So, you aren't likely to chase these Hunic cav archers off with light cav. If you send heavier cav, it can't run fast enough to ever catch the horse archers. If you try to shoot it, it goes into Cantabrian circle. So, they don't seem to have a counterunit.

Balance isn't something you can determine by having player A play player B if the players aren't equally matched. Also, by leaving in battlefield upgrades, it guarantees that the game can't be balanced. Battlefield upgrades were removed from MTW/VI multiplayer because of their unbalancing effect, and more unit types and more combat parameters means more difficulty balancing the game.