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    The conditions for those things could never be properly representative. It'll be a little odd having Hannibal spawn in Northern Spain if you've already invaded Italy, or in game, you're completely focused elsewhere and the Spanish buildup never occured. It's really not a viable option in our mod, unless we scripted every turn, and the player had no control over the events - that would be true accuracy
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    Edyz: not everyone is going to have BI or will get BI.

    Could you script historical natural disasters though? They'll definitely happen no matter what us puny humans do. Also, perhaps include invading armies from the East if they actually occured? I'm not so sure about this because I'm not clear about the history there, but if these invasions did happen it'd be great to see them.
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    not completly true. A lot of natural disaster are directly caused or indirectly caused by humans.

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    I think that it would be neat if EB made important historical generals appear appear at certain times. I've never liked that all the rulers generals are family members. It would be cool if say, Julius Caesar appeared with a small army in the Roman capital in 60 or 70 BC. It wouldn't necessarily have to be a trigger for a Gallic War or a Civil War, it would just be a historical character appearing, that, if the players chooses, could fight a Gallic War or some other war. Plus, having historical generals available would allow for more of the cool biographies in the traits screen thing.

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    I think it is a bit much to use historic characters beyond what is available at the start. I will say, however, that spin-offs of EB featuring campaigns with historic characters would be quite awesome. I think there is one RTW vanilla mod that follows Alexander the Great, but I have no idea what goes into making one of those.

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    Why wouldn't we go to BI? Because we would have to buy it. And so would everyone who wants to play EB.

    Moving to BI is a major decision that we will make based on the merits of BI. And at the moment, I don't see anything that would have us clearly moving over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khelvan
    Why wouldn't we go to BI? Because we would have to buy it. And so would everyone who wants to play EB.

    Moving to BI is a major decision that we will make based on the merits of BI. And at the moment, I don't see anything that would have us clearly moving over.
    THAT is a five sentence rational for gaming companies to avoid making their games "too modable." If too many folks see this as a choice of getting a mod or buying the expansion, game companies will have second thoughts about leaving that choice up to us.

    Disclaimer I have not bought BI yet but probably will to play future versions of EB and/or RTR

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    Quote Originally Posted by tk-421
    I think that it would be neat if EB made important historical generals appear appear at certain times. I've never liked that all the rulers generals are family members. It would be cool if say, Julius Caesar appeared with a small army in the Roman capital in 60 or 70 BC. It wouldn't necessarily have to be a trigger for a Gallic War or a Civil War, it would just be a historical character appearing, that, if the players chooses, could fight a Gallic War or some other war. Plus, having historical generals available would allow for more of the cool biographies in the traits screen thing.
    Would it? For some yes, for some no.

    Personally, I'd be a bit "disappointed" in lack of better words, if Hannibal showed up in Iberia, even though there already was a Carthaginian army or two in Italy, or if Iberian was totally in Iberian control. Wouldn't be so historically correct.

    I concur with what Epistolary Richard said. EB's aim is to make everything as historically correct as in 272 BC, and let the player shape the following history.
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    Well, at least we found out what the real aim of EB is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edyzmedieval
    Well, at least we found out what the real aim of EB is.
    What Epistolary Richard said had already been stated a bunch of times. It's not like it took this thread to extract that particular piece of information
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk-421
    I think that it would be neat if EB made important historical generals appear appear at certain times. I've never liked that all the rulers generals are family members. It would be cool if say, Julius Caesar appeared with a small army in the Roman capital in 60 or 70 BC. It wouldn't necessarily have to be a trigger for a Gallic War or a Civil War, it would just be a historical character appearing, that, if the players chooses, could fight a Gallic War or some other war. Plus, having historical generals available would allow for more of the cool biographies in the traits screen thing.
    The problem is, by 60 or 70 BC I'll already have conquered Rome and eliminated the faction if I'm Arverni, Aedui, a hellenistic faction or Kart Hadastim I think regularly spawning some hordes of rebel units at the map edges could be interesting to force the player to maintain garrisons everywhere, but in other places it would be strange gameplay-wise IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    I think regularly spawning some hordes of rebel units at the map edges could be interesting to force the player to maintain garrisons everywhere, but in other places it would be strange gameplay-wise IMO.
    i wish i could do that. but i need all my armies up on the various fronts, the high upkeep doesn't usually allow me to "garrison the land"...

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    well I try to keep one or two professional units, a bit of cavalry, and one or two family members in each major region. It's convenient if there are rebellions or some evil enemy tries to bribe your settlements (like the romani did in my current Makedonia campaign)... Plague is annoying, rebellion is bothersome, but nothing, absolutely nothing, makes me more angry than when those enemy diplomats steal my settlements AND my troops! Luckily it seems like I as usual managed to put together a small army strong enough to retake the two settlements I lost, but often they bribe the settlements while they're in the middle of some 20 turns or so long building project... Anyway in this particular campaign it was in a way good because it feels more historical if I'm forced to keep some kind of garrison, and when I convinced myself to pretend the bribed cities were a Getai rebellion financed by the Romani, it felt a lot more logical.
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