EDB: Does any 1.5 mod have buildings as unit recruitment requirements?

[LestaT]

You know, having a barracks recruit a unit like this:

recruit "roman infantry evocatae" 0 requires factions { romans, } and building_present_min_level government_type1 level1

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In the change from 1.2 to 1.5, there seems to have been an added feature in the barracks that allows you to click on your units and see them, but it sometimes (for some factions, but not for others, it seems) crashes to desktop when you click on a barracks (in 1.5) that has units inside which have building requirements (though that was fine in 1.2).

Just wondering if any other mods were having trouble with this.

(note: I'm just posing the question here. Folks like blacksnail and nikolai and kull first realized what the problem was.)

There's a discussion in our conversion project regarding this bug. My finding is that when you click on a unit which certain condition hasn't been met yet it will caused CTD. Especially in missile or stables building where certain condition have to be met for the unit is avialable.

[Monkwarrior]

My case was even worse.

The game CTD in the first turn during the movements of the faction allowed to recruit that unit. Even when that unit was not accessible due to the lack of a hidden resource.

I had also CTD when I tried to see the info about the recruitment building. Everything works now perfectly when the building requirement is eliminated (only the hidden resource is needed now).

[Dol Guldur]

Yes, the BCs cause two other bugs - one connected in some way with the unit info and (believe it or not) cas/texture files (how the 2 are related I do not know), and the 2nd with the *number* of BC units in a building - this latter CTDs long before you get to the chance of right-clicking units (usually on trying to open or build the building, sometime at campaign start when you just click on the settlement). Tests show that more than 4 BC units in the same building cause this ctd to activate.

Anyway, no BC units anymore - they are too buggy.

TIP

If anyone is still using them one thing we were doing was to change all building names from vanilla "word1 word2" to "[space]-[space]word1 word2[space]-" which makes it look reasonable in all places it occurs inc. the unit list requirement in the building scroll.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

This is now a tremendous problem for EB. We don't seem to have a good answer in how to deal with it. I'm really personally ticked off at CA for introducing all these problems (no problems for them - but things that work in 1.2 suddenly don't work in 1.5, and that's just dumb), but the issue for us is how to deal with it. We have an incredibly complex system, and we didn't know this problem existed before porting - it seems as though it has now become problematic for FATW, until you've dumped the whole system of having BC units, and ITW, by dumping the whole system of having BC units. In other mods too potentially that haven't completed porting or haven't figured out what hte problem is yet. This is really disappointing.

[Epistolary Richard]

The right click on the unit listed in a building description CTD - I can't help with. But then I never knew the feature existed until now so

In my game though I had a CTD on launch with any building that existed on the map at the start that recruited units with a bc - this I got around by removing that building from descr_strat and putting it in the campaign_script instead.

[stalin]

Maybe stupid but
Have you thought of writing in the readme "don't right click blablabla" and dealing with it when other things are done? (like in RTR you weren't supposed to press the Senate button)

[Teleklos Archelaou]

We aren't having CTD's on launch because of this problem ER. If the issue was only when you clicked on the unit names, I think we could live with it, but the bigger problem is that even if you just click on the building itself (to view it) it will CTD if there are building conditions present for certain units inside it. That is the bigger problem.

Someone (blacksnail?) has proposed putting a microsoft Windows icon in as the icon for a special recruitment building you would not ever have to touch (and that would be indestructable and present in every province), and so if anyone wanted a quick exit to desktop, they could just click on the window's button. But it may come down to living with something like that. We can't turn back now to 1.2.

stalin: I don't think 1 in 50 people read the readme. We could put it on every loading screen and people would still click it and complain.