Cindy Sheehan: "Canada out of Afghanistan!"

**Joker85** · 05-08-2006, 19:22

Originally Posted by master of the puppets

i agree with the prince and have to ask, who the hell gave her press time in the first place.

Well when she was the "sympathetic" anti war/bush mom the media and dems did. Now that she has made a fool of herself they are unable to shut her up. She is an embarassment that they themselves created and is now doing them damage.

I think the line that did it for me was during Katrina when she called for the guard to "pull out" of New Orleans and end the occupation there.

**Devastatin Dave** · 05-08-2006, 20:33

(Now, now. We don't need to hear that - Beirut)

**Divinus Arma** · 05-08-2006, 20:40

Oh goody. I thought the press finally stopped covering her. I think they should air her views all of the time.

My favorite line wwas when she apologized to the Venezuelan president in Venezuela at some anti-America rally for American imperialism.

I'm sure her son would be proud.

She is no whacking post, IMO. Instead, I see her as a nut who helps the conservative cause. I think she might secretly be on the RNC payroll.

I like how the media first portrayed this as Bush's refusal to speak with her, rather than Bush's refusal to speak with her again. (He met with her once shortly after the death of her son, remember?) The media conveniently forgets to include that part.

**A.Saturnus** · 05-08-2006, 21:09

So...its in the hands of the Taliban, but no rebuilding is going on because of 'occupying forces' who occupy the country? Which one is it?

Err... the Taliban weren't drug lords. Murderers, oppressors and islamofascist maniacs yes, but not drug lords. In fact, they were the only one who managed to effectively fight drug production in Afghanistan. But other than that, yes the woman is a shame.

**Louis VI the Fat** · 05-08-2006, 22:04

Nah, she is not a whacko. She is quite rational: her son died in war, the reasons for going to war were questionable, so she has an axe to grind with those responsible.

So far so good. She is overplaying her hand, and damaging her case, with Chavez, Katrina and now Afghanistan though.

The scale of 9/11 and the closesness of AQ and the Taliban made it nothing short of an open declaration of war by the Taliban against America. Arguments that the Taliban and OBL were previously supported by America, or that support for the war in Afghanistan enables the war in Iraq, whether true or false, fade to insignificance in that light.

**Ice** · 05-09-2006, 00:33

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Nah, she is not a whacko. She is quite rational: her son died in war, the reasons for going to war were questionable, so she has an axe to grind with those responsible.
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Understandable, IF her son did not volunteer for military service. No one forced him to pick up that rifle...

**Louis VI the Fat** · 05-09-2006, 01:19

Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?

I do wish she wouldn't bring up her son every time though. She can not indefinitely, on each and every subject, claim to be his spokeswoman. Ironically, that would, after his physical death, mean the demise of him as an independent personality too. This also hints at what you rightfully pointed out too.

Didn't someone shoot her yet?

No, because she lives in America, where people are free to voice their opinion with respect for their life and liberty. Deal with it or move to North Korea.
America, love it or leave it and all that.

**Ice** · 05-09-2006, 01:34

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?

When you join the military, you do not get to chose which wars you want to fight in and which ones you don't. That isn't an option. Her son knew full well that he was at the wim of his Commander and Cheif to be sent where ever he thought necessary.

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 05-09-2006, 01:50

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?

I do wish she wouldn't bring up her son every time though. She can not indefinitely, on each and every subject, claim to be his spokeswoman. Ironically, that would, after his physical death, mean the demise of him as an independent personality too. This also hints at what you rightfully pointed out too.

No, because she lives in America, where people are free to voice their opinion with respect for their life and liberty. Deal with it or move to North Korea.
America, love it or leave it and all that.

But her opinion is treasonous. God, where's McCarthy when you need him?

**lars573** · 05-09-2006, 03:27

Originally Posted by Divinus Arma

Oh goody. I thought the press finally stopped covering her.

Your media did. That link is from the Globe and Mail's website. The G'n'B being one of Canada's 2 national newspapers. It's the one that's not a joke/Tory rag.

Anyway, one thing I've always wondered is how did she feel about her son joining the army period? If you just take the way she reacted to her son being killed it gives the impression that she never wanted him in a uniform to begin with.

**Csargo** · 05-09-2006, 03:43

I've got a question why does Canada care what Cindy Sheehan has to say? And on her son He joined the army cause he wanted too not because he was forced. And going into a war is a chance he took and it just so happened that he was thrown into a war zone and was killed. This ladie probably just wants something to bitch about.

**lars573** · 05-09-2006, 03:52

Originally Posted by Csar

I've got a question why does Canada care what Cindy Sheehan has to say?

She called a press conference to tell us to get out of Afghanistan, on parliment hill. That was gonig to get coverage no matter what. Whether we care or not remains to be seen.

Originally Posted by Csar

And on her son He joined the army cause he wanted too not because he was forced. And going into a war is a chance he took and it just so happened that he was thrown into a war zone and was killed. This ladie probably just wants something to bitch about.

That's not what I asked. What SHE though about her son joining the army PERIOD? That's what I asked.

**Csargo** · 05-09-2006, 03:56

I sure she didnt want him too. Thats pretty obvious.

**Strike For The South** · 05-09-2006, 04:05

Louis I love ya but saying he didnt know what he was getting into was a lie its like becoming a doctor and surprised when you see a cancer patient you know it could happen. Wether the goverment starts a war or not you join the milatary to fight wether it be in Carters adminastration or Bushes. The boy was old enough to know what he was doing and he renlisted. Sheenan has gone from a mother with misplaced grief to a tool in the crap factory known as poltics