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    Default Re: Re : Cindy Sheehan: "Canada out of Afghanistan!"

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    Nah, she is not a whacko. She is quite rational: her son died in war, the reasons for going to war were questionable, so she has an axe to grind with those responsible.
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    Understandable, IF her son did not volunteer for military service. No one forced him to pick up that rifle...



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    Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

    One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?

    I do wish she wouldn't bring up her son every time though. She can not indefinitely, on each and every subject, claim to be his spokeswoman. Ironically, that would, after his physical death, mean the demise of him as an independent personality too. This also hints at what you rightfully pointed out too.


    Didn't someone shoot her yet?
    No, because she lives in America, where people are free to voice their opinion with respect for their life and liberty. Deal with it or move to North Korea.
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    Default Re: Re : Cindy Sheehan: "Canada out of Afghanistan!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
    Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

    One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?
    When you join the military, you do not get to chose which wars you want to fight in and which ones you don't. That isn't an option. Her son knew full well that he was at the wim of his Commander and Cheif to be sent where ever he thought necessary.



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    When you join the military, you do not get to chose which wars you want to fight in and which ones you don't.
    Indeed, therefore those who send them must use utmost caution, deliberation and their best conscience when commiting them to war. The obligation is mutual.
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    Indeed, therefore those who send them must use utmost caution, deliberation and their best conscience when commiting them to war. The obligation is mutual.
    Yes, but the mother of a deceased soldier does not to get to use her son's death as an excuse to nag, nag, and NAG. He was there volunterily, end of story.



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    Aye, but why did he volunteer? To fight a war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or to fight a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

    One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled when he voluntered?

    Meh, we're going round in circles, aren't we?
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    Default Re: Re : Cindy Sheehan: "Canada out of Afghanistan!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
    Aye, but why did he volunteer? To fight a war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or to fight a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

    One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled when he voluntered?

    Meh, we're going round in circles, aren't we?
    Yes. It doesn't matter why he joined, the bottem line is he joined. He is a soldier who voluntered in the United States Army. He knew the consquences of his action, he was a big boy.



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    Default Re: Re : Cindy Sheehan: "Canada out of Afghanistan!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
    One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled when he voluntered?
    I think this is were my belief that he not only volunteered, but reenlisted, comes into play. Even assuming he was misled the first time, he certainly knew what was happening the second time.

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    Default Re: Re : Cindy Sheehan: "Canada out of Afghanistan!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
    Aye, but why did he volunteer? To fight a war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or to fight a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

    One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled when he voluntered?

    Meh, we're going round in circles, aren't we?


    First,my opion is that they Hid WMDs,if you people ever thought of it..



    Second,He voulnteer for the Army.



    God sake, if you don't want to defend the US,don't join the Army.

    but then again,if there was no WMD,tell me if we should have let Saddam in power then?

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    Default Re: Re : Cindy Sheehan: "Canada out of Afghanistan!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
    Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

    One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?

    I do wish she wouldn't bring up her son every time though. She can not indefinitely, on each and every subject, claim to be his spokeswoman. Ironically, that would, after his physical death, mean the demise of him as an independent personality too. This also hints at what you rightfully pointed out too.


    No, because she lives in America, where people are free to voice their opinion with respect for their life and liberty. Deal with it or move to North Korea.
    America, love it or leave it and all that.
    But her opinion is treasonous. God, where's McCarthy when you need him?

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