Cindy Sheehan: "Canada out of Afghanistan!"

[Louis VI the Fat]

Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?

I do wish she wouldn't bring up her son every time though. She can not indefinitely, on each and every subject, claim to be his spokeswoman. Ironically, that would, after his physical death, mean the demise of him as an independent personality too. This also hints at what you rightfully pointed out too.

Didn't someone shoot her yet?

No, because she lives in America, where people are free to voice their opinion with respect for their life and liberty. Deal with it or move to North Korea.
America, love it or leave it and all that.

[Ice]

Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?

When you join the military, you do not get to chose which wars you want to fight in and which ones you don't. That isn't an option. Her son knew full well that he was at the wim of his Commander and Cheif to be sent where ever he thought necessary.

[Louis VI the Fat]

When you join the military, you do not get to chose which wars you want to fight in and which ones you don't.

Indeed, therefore those who send them must use utmost caution, deliberation and their best conscience when commiting them to war. The obligation is mutual.

[Ice]

Indeed, therefore those who send them must use utmost caution, deliberation and their best conscience when commiting them to war. The obligation is mutual.

Yes, but the mother of a deceased soldier does not to get to use her son's death as an excuse to nag, nag, and NAG. He was there volunterily, end of story.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Aye, but why did he volunteer? To fight a war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or to fight a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled when he voluntered?

Meh, we're going round in circles, aren't we?

[Ice]

Aye, but why did he volunteer? To fight a war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or to fight a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled when he voluntered?

Meh, we're going round in circles, aren't we?

Yes. It doesn't matter why he joined, the bottem line is he joined. He is a soldier who voluntered in the United States Army. He knew the consquences of his action, he was a big boy.

[Csargo]

Who is Cindy Sheehan? Isnt she American? What does Canada have to do with her son dieing? Why do I keep asking questions? Opiums not that bad is it? Why cant we all just get along?

[Crazed Rabbit]

One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled when he voluntered?

I think this is were my belief that he not only volunteered, but reenlisted, comes into play. Even assuming he was misled the first time, he certainly knew what was happening the second time.

Crazed Rabbit

[Redleg]

She initially had a valid protest, but she has long since lost any creditablity.

I wonder if her handler's have washed their hands of her?

[Louis VI the Fat]

I think this is were my belief that he not only volunteered, but reenlisted, comes into play. Even assuming he was misled the first time, he certainly knew what was happening the second time.

I never knew that he reenlisted. Even if so, the naive can be misled even when the thruth stares them in the face. He may have been aware of the reality of the every day war in Iraq, but did he grasp the big picture of the war? Did he understand why the war is fought, under which pretence? Does the US army in Iraq allow for a climate in which the rationale for the war is easily debated? Soldiers have a job to do and a war to win, they get and seek more exposure to morale boosting propaganda than to New York Times columnists.

He should however also be considered a person capable of making his own moral decisions. I've stated before that she should show restraint in claiming to speak on his behalf. It depends too much on assumptions about him, and in the end on one's appreciation of the war in Iraq.

She initially had a valid protest, but she has long since lost any creditablity.

Briefly: the validity of her protest hasn't changed, it is as valid or not as it was on day one.
But yes, unfortunately, she is not the best and brightest anti-war activist out there. To put it mildly.

[BHCWarman88]

Aye, but why did he volunteer? To fight a war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or to fight a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled when he voluntered?

Meh, we're going round in circles, aren't we?

First,my opion is that they Hid WMDs,if you people ever thought of it..



Second,He voulnteer for the Army.



God sake, if you don't want to defend the US,don't join the Army.

but then again,if there was no WMD,tell me if we should have let Saddam in power then?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

First,my opion is that they Hid WMDs,if you people ever thought of it..

Second,He voulnteer for the Army.

God sake, if you don't want to defend the US,don't join the Army.

but then again,if there was no WMD,tell me if we should have let Saddam in power then?

It is possible that Iraq hid WMD's or shipped them to a "friendly" locale in Syria or even Iran, but no evidence has been released to indicate this. A modest number of WMD's have been found during the occupation, but there is no indication of an ongoing program at the time of the invasion. Interestingly, there are some indications that many of the higher-echelon leaders in Saddam's Iraq were convinced that they had such weapons and that it is possible that Saddam himself was being told what he wanted to hear and thus had an inflated opinion of his ability to re-start such programs and the like. The most likely verdict is that the Bush administration was sincere in its decision to invade under the perceived threat of WMD's, but that the intelligence work confirming the existence of such weapons was not of the highest quality -- too much was accepted as true because it fit our fears (a classic problem in decision-making).

Sheehan served honorably, dying during a service episode that was beyond normal duty expectations. His mother's loss is not reparable, but is, sadly, a product of conflict. The decision to employ violence always carries a cost.

Saddam was a pig. Removing him was an appropriate act. Kicking over the apple cart without better information as to the consequences was not an example of excellent planning. Power abhors a vacuum and violence and mayhem the usual byproducts of the atmosphere re-establishing itself.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?

One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?

I do wish she wouldn't bring up her son every time though. She can not indefinitely, on each and every subject, claim to be his spokeswoman. Ironically, that would, after his physical death, mean the demise of him as an independent personality too. This also hints at what you rightfully pointed out too.


No, because she lives in America, where people are free to voice their opinion with respect for their life and liberty. Deal with it or move to North Korea.
America, love it or leave it and all that.

But her opinion is treasonous. God, where's McCarthy when you need him?