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Vice Premier Shimon Peres said Monday that "the president of Iran should remember that Iran can also be wiped off the map."
Good for Israel. Stand up to that bully.
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Vice Premier Shimon Peres said Monday that "the president of Iran should remember that Iran can also be wiped off the map."
Good for Israel. Stand up to that bully.
Wipe them both off, USA and Russia...
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It's funny though, Iran is seen as "standing up to that bully" in the Muslim world, and Israel is here...
Last edited by Reenk Roink; 05-08-2006 at 23:27.
Right on.Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
As long as Iran walks the line of hostile but does not act, guess who is getting the worst side of the bargin?
USA and China as they are importing a lot of oil.
While Russia and Iran are supplying a whole lot of oil.
So a little bit of belligerence adds a couple of billion to the income of all the oil producers.
Last edited by Papewaio; 05-08-2006 at 23:37.
So you're saying the bully is the one WITHOUT the nuclear weapons?Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
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"I love this fellow God. He's so deliciously evil." --Stuart Griffin
I think he's saying the bully is the one who began threatening to wipe a nation off the map, to which Isreal just responded "that can work both ways".Originally Posted by Hurin_Rules
Actually, before that comment, Israel threatened to preemptively strike Iran like it did Iraq in the 80's...Originally Posted by Joker85
Needless to say, there is a lot of history between the two...
Last edited by Reenk Roink; 05-09-2006 at 01:22.
Uh, actually I think Isreal has publicly said pretty much the opposite- that it wouldnt be able to pre-emptively strike. Whether or not they would may be a different matter, but I don't recall them threatening to do so.Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
"Don't believe everything you read online."
-Abraham Lincoln
As usual, a muslim country that happens to have pretty sour relations with the US and Israel wants to develop Nuclear energy and it's a terrible crime for them to do so. The US, Britain, Israel, France, North Korea and Russia all have this technology, including weapons. Britain is even talking about constructing more nuclear power stations. But as soon as Iran makes a move to enrich uranium the "world police" start laying down the law. If Iran is moving to arm itself in this way, of which there is currently no hard evidence, there can be only one reason, and that is to deter the US and it's allies from invading as they did Iraq. You don't see the US invading North Korea, this is because they're already armed. Iraq was not Nuclear, Biologically nor, at that time, Chemically armed, and the US and UK knew this only too well, which is why the whole 'WMD' fiasco was invented as a pretext and the invasion went ahead. The cold war proved the effectiveness, and the drawbacks, of mutually assured destruction in that a country with Nuclear weapons became effectively immune to open war.
So with regard to Iran possibly wanting to arm themselves, the question is: Can you blame them? As to the "wipe Israel off the map"/"wipe Iran off the map" thing, well it sounds like alot of empty threats, as Iran, as yet, doesn't posess the technology to do so, and if they did, it is likely that Isreal, a Nuclear Power, would also wipe them off the map at the same time, with the help of their allies the US.
Last edited by caravel; 05-09-2006 at 13:19.
“The majestic equality of the laws prohibits the rich and the poor alike from sleeping under bridges, begging in the streets and stealing bread.” - Anatole France
"The law is like a spider’s web. The small are caught, and the great tear it up.” - Anacharsis
Pretty much. Israel does nothing but seeks its own survival. Israeli foreign policy does not included a stated goal of "The destruction of Iran". However, Iran does have a stated policy goal of "the destruction of Israel".Originally Posted by Joker85
Preemptive strikes by Israel are in the interest of its survival. They don't seek to "wipe Iran off the map", or dream of "a world without Iran".
A premeptive strike will not stop a nuclear Iran. They have a huge country. If Israel attacks first, they lose. If Iran attacks first, Israel loses. One bomb can oblitarate everyone in Israel.
These are big words coming from Pervez. No one can wipe off Iran.
That´s actually very funny.Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
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One problems with nukes, however big they may be, is that they have a circle of destruction which means in the case of countries like Israel that if you use just one nuke, you will inevitably harm(or destroy) neighboring countries as well.
And btw, the neighboring countries are full of muslims.
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"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
totally wrong Prince. Isreail Can't,but USA or Russia could..
I can think of a few million Palestinians who would vociferously disagree.Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
"I love this fellow God. He's so deliciously evil." --Stuart Griffin
...with anyone, about nearly any subject, on a virtually constant basis. If they were any less "together" they'd be Democrats.Originally Posted by Hurin_Rules
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
But then they could be matyrs which I'm sure they'd enjoy while the melting occured.Originally Posted by Hurin_Rules
RIP Tosa
I only hope this doesn't pass from mere words. Another thing, we're not talking about you or me standing against an individual bully, we're talking about international relationships, words matter a lot more in that enviorament.Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
Born On The Flames
Originally Posted by Soulforged
Careful now you are about to enter into an area that you normally argue against.
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The power of words.....
O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean
I was expecting this Red.Originally Posted by Redleg
Let's no ruin the thread with another subject...By the way I can still save myself but this is not the place.
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Born On The Flames
This thread is about the use of language.....Originally Posted by Soulforged
O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean
I'm gonna go with the underdog. Come on, Iran, don't take that from the new kid just because he has big friends.
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