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    Vice Premier Shimon Peres said Monday that "the president of Iran should remember that Iran can also be wiped off the map."

    Good for Israel. Stand up to that bully.
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    Default Re: "Iran can also be wiped off the map" -Israel

    Wipe them both off, USA and Russia...

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    It's funny though, Iran is seen as "standing up to that bully" in the Muslim world, and Israel is here...
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    Good for Israel. Stand up to that bully.
    Right on.

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    As long as Iran walks the line of hostile but does not act, guess who is getting the worst side of the bargin?

    USA and China as they are importing a lot of oil.

    While Russia and Iran are supplying a whole lot of oil.

    So a little bit of belligerence adds a couple of billion to the income of all the oil producers.
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    Default Re: "Iran can also be wiped off the map" -Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    Good for Israel. Stand up to that bully.
    So you're saying the bully is the one WITHOUT the nuclear weapons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurin_Rules
    So you're saying the bully is the one WITHOUT the nuclear weapons?
    I think he's saying the bully is the one who began threatening to wipe a nation off the map, to which Isreal just responded "that can work both ways".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker85
    I think he's saying the bully is the one who began threatening to wipe a nation off the map, to which Isreal just responded "that can work both ways".
    Actually, before that comment, Israel threatened to preemptively strike Iran like it did Iraq in the 80's...

    Needless to say, there is a lot of history between the two...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
    Actually, before that comment, Israel threatened to preemptively strike Iran like it did Iraq in the 80's...

    Needless to say, there is a lot of history between the two...
    Uh, actually I think Isreal has publicly said pretty much the opposite- that it wouldnt be able to pre-emptively strike. Whether or not they would may be a different matter, but I don't recall them threatening to do so.
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    As usual, a muslim country that happens to have pretty sour relations with the US and Israel wants to develop Nuclear energy and it's a terrible crime for them to do so. The US, Britain, Israel, France, North Korea and Russia all have this technology, including weapons. Britain is even talking about constructing more nuclear power stations. But as soon as Iran makes a move to enrich uranium the "world police" start laying down the law. If Iran is moving to arm itself in this way, of which there is currently no hard evidence, there can be only one reason, and that is to deter the US and it's allies from invading as they did Iraq. You don't see the US invading North Korea, this is because they're already armed. Iraq was not Nuclear, Biologically nor, at that time, Chemically armed, and the US and UK knew this only too well, which is why the whole 'WMD' fiasco was invented as a pretext and the invasion went ahead. The cold war proved the effectiveness, and the drawbacks, of mutually assured destruction in that a country with Nuclear weapons became effectively immune to open war.

    So with regard to Iran possibly wanting to arm themselves, the question is: Can you blame them? As to the "wipe Israel off the map"/"wipe Iran off the map" thing, well it sounds like alot of empty threats, as Iran, as yet, doesn't posess the technology to do so, and if they did, it is likely that Isreal, a Nuclear Power, would also wipe them off the map at the same time, with the help of their allies the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker85
    I think he's saying the bully is the one who began threatening to wipe a nation off the map, to which Isreal just responded "that can work both ways".
    Pretty much. Israel does nothing but seeks its own survival. Israeli foreign policy does not included a stated goal of "The destruction of Iran". However, Iran does have a stated policy goal of "the destruction of Israel".

    Preemptive strikes by Israel are in the interest of its survival. They don't seek to "wipe Iran off the map", or dream of "a world without Iran".
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    A premeptive strike will not stop a nuclear Iran. They have a huge country. If Israel attacks first, they lose. If Iran attacks first, Israel loses. One bomb can oblitarate everyone in Israel.

    These are big words coming from Pervez. No one can wipe off Iran.

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    Default Re: "Iran can also be wiped off the map" -Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
    A premeptive strike will not stop a nuclear Iran. They have a huge country. If Israel attacks first, they lose. If Iran attacks first, Israel loses. One bomb can oblitarate everyone in Israel.

    These are big words coming from Pervez. No one can wipe off Iran.
    That´s actually very funny.

    One problems with nukes, however big they may be, is that they have a circle of destruction which means in the case of countries like Israel that if you use just one nuke, you will inevitably harm(or destroy) neighboring countries as well.
    And btw, the neighboring countries are full of muslims.


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    Default Re: "Iran can also be wiped off the map" -Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
    No one can wipe off Iran.


    totally wrong Prince. Isreail Can't,but USA or Russia could..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    Israel does nothing but seeks its own survival.
    I can think of a few million Palestinians who would vociferously disagree.
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    Default Re: "Iran can also be wiped off the map" -Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Hurin_Rules
    I can think of a few million Palestinians who would vociferously disagree.
    ...with anyone, about nearly any subject, on a virtually constant basis. If they were any less "together" they'd be Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurin_Rules
    I can think of a few million Palestinians who would vociferously disagree.
    But then they could be matyrs which I'm sure they'd enjoy while the melting occured.
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    Default Re: "Iran can also be wiped off the map" -Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    Good for Israel. Stand up to that bully.
    I only hope this doesn't pass from mere words. Another thing, we're not talking about you or me standing against an individual bully, we're talking about international relationships, words matter a lot more in that enviorament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulforged
    I only hope this doesn't pass from mere words. Another thing, we're not talking about you or me standing against an individual bully, we're talking about international relationships, words matter a lot more in that enviorament.
    Careful now you are about to enter into an area that you normally argue against.

    The power of words.....
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
    Careful now you are about to enter into an area that you normally argue against.

    The power of words.....
    I was expecting this Red. Let's no ruin the thread with another subject...By the way I can still save myself but this is not the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulforged
    I was expecting this Red. Let's no ruin the thread with another subject...By the way I can still save myself but this is not the place.
    This thread is about the use of language.....
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    I'm gonna go with the underdog. Come on, Iran, don't take that from the new kid just because he has big friends.

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