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    Courtesy of Lithuanian on the TotalWar.com forums.





    These guys look awesome! I seriously don't think anyone can have any complaints on how these guys turned out.

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    They look good, and will probably be fun, but my concerns, and the concerns of others too I think, have been that their implementation on the campaign game might be strange and/or unbalanced, and that with the limited number of factions in the engine it'll mean removal of a more important faction in Europe or the Middle east, where there are already a bit too few factions to make it realistic and fun. Diplomacy with only 21 factions is for example not as fun as diplomacy with some 50 factions, pacts, tight alliances, backstabbing and buildup or destruction of a rumor of being trustworthy. With 21 factions it's difficult to find out who is a backstabber, and difficult to use diplomacy and internal wars to turn opponents against each others, and alliances don't mean that much.
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    This makes me think they already have the add-on in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadesWolf
    This makes me think they already have the add-on in mind.
    I hope it includes the factions from Viking Invasion! I just played it and I like the Irish, no, not just becuase I'm part Irish, its becuase you start out in danger. You have England and the Vikings right next to you and you have to get tough quick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    They look good, and will probably be fun, but my concerns, and the concerns of others too I think, have been that their implementation on the campaign game might be strange and/or unbalanced, and that with the limited number of factions in the engine it'll mean removal of a more important faction in Europe or the Middle east, where there are already a bit too few factions to make it realistic and fun. Diplomacy with only 21 factions is for example not as fun as diplomacy with some 50 factions, pacts, tight alliances, backstabbing and buildup or destruction of a rumor of being trustworthy. With 21 factions it's difficult to find out who is a backstabber, and difficult to use diplomacy and internal wars to turn opponents against each others, and alliances don't mean that much.
    Given the recent 'pseudo-confirmation' of the Mayans and Incas, it looks as though the developers may well have increased the faction limit to at least 30 as they said they would, maybe more.

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    I think they look too much like chicken/tigers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x-dANGEr
    I think they look too much like chicken/tigers.


    Seriously, they indeed look weird. But they are historically correct, so nobody can argue.
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    They certainly look detailed.

    My only concern is this (and someone can correct me if I am wrong):

    The warfare of the azteks was not in tight european-style formations in the open field. I would imagine thick jungles with complicated terrain. In fact, this should be the major strength of the natives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    They look good, and will probably be fun, but my concerns, and the concerns of others too I think, have been that their implementation on the campaign game might be strange and/or unbalanced, and that with the limited number of factions in the engine it'll mean removal of a more important faction in Europe or the Middle east, where there are already a bit too few factions to make it realistic and fun. Diplomacy with only 21 factions is for example not as fun as diplomacy with some 50 factions, pacts, tight alliances, backstabbing and buildup or destruction of a rumor of being trustworthy. With 21 factions it's difficult to find out who is a backstabber, and difficult to use diplomacy and internal wars to turn opponents against each others, and alliances don't mean that much.
    There probally putting more factions in this mod. I don't think there will be a 21 faction limit like RTW

    I wonder if Inca's will be availble?
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    Haha...that`s the silliest units I`ve ever seen; but since they`re (or supposed to be) historically accurate, noone will complain.
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    That looks really cool, i hope you can play as them MTW 2. But i wonder, where did they find that many feathers. It would of been easier just to run around naked like all the other indians.

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    Heh, needs to be more dirty. The costumes look like they just got out of the dryer and were ironed. Some rips, dirt, maybe a little blood would make it seem more realistic.
    Remember that in MII TW units will get bloodier and more battered as the battle goes on...

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    This is my main concern with stretching the game past the fall of Constantinople and into the New World era.

    How can they possibly model, gameplay-wise, the massive upheavals caused by the Europeans invasion of the Americas?

    First, you have the biological disruption with the introduction of European diseases.

    Second, you have the significant technological disparity.

    Third, you have the political turmoil with many protectorates/allies/subjugated tribes siding with the Europeans against their former masters.

    As a medieval era fan I would greatly prefer that the focus be kept on the European/Middle Eastern region. Not getting that wish, comon mods , hopefully CA will be able to implement this without having to lead my faction through dozens of battles where I do nothing but slaughter.

    I do not want to spend hours slaughtering all of their reinforcements piecemeal since there is a limit on how many soldiers can be "fighting" at the same time no matter how many stacks they have me surrounded with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Robin
    This is my main concern with stretching the game past the fall of Constantinople and into the New World era.

    How can they possibly model, gameplay-wise, the massive upheavals caused by the Europeans invasion of the Americas?

    First, you have the biological disruption with the introduction of European diseases.

    Second, you have the significant technological disparity.

    Third, you have the political turmoil with many protectorates/allies/subjugated tribes siding with the Europeans against their former masters.

    As a medieval era fan I would greatly prefer that the focus be kept on the European/Middle Eastern region. Not getting that wish, comon mods , hopefully CA will be able to implement this without having to lead my faction through dozens of battles where I do nothing but slaughter.
    Well, you could just as well argue that you won´t see a siege of Constantinople if the egyptian player wipes out the Turks and in the end, you will be watching a movie instead of playing a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia
    I seriously don't think anyone can have any complaints on how these guys turned out.
    My complaint is that I would not include them in a Mediaeval game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia
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    These guys look awesome! I seriously don't think anyone can have any complaints on how these guys turned out.
    Once this comes out if its moddable then im going to write an aar on the atzecs

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