Bush is about to lose his 31 %

**Devastatin Dave** · 05-15-2006, 05:01

Tomorrow night, Bush is going to give a speech on immigration. I'm sure it will be weak with a bunch of nods, winks, and smirks. It will all be a bunch of tough talk and zero action.

If by some miracle of God Bush comes back to his base and actually starts doing what he's suppose to be doing, and by that I mean what the majority of Americans voted him in office for, this might mark a comeback. I'm in serious doubt though.

He had a great chance to continue the United States greatness by representing Conservative Americans and making our beliefs policy. This country would be even greater than it is now. But he's failed his Conservative base. I don't know why Bush is so hated by the Left, he's spent the most ever on BS socialist programs and worthless limp-wristed causes than any president in the history. This man is the President of the liberal, not the conservative. This man has done more harm to the Conservative movement than any pinko commie socialist hippy could ever even in their wildest drug induced dream!!!

So tomorrow night... Will it be the last straw on the camel's back or will it become the turning point to the greatest political comeback in our lifetime? Discuss, and feel free to call Americans racist and stupid if it makes your point stronger and the fact that you'll probably get away with it anyway.

Discuss!!!

**Divinus Arma** · 05-15-2006, 05:20

He already dropped to 29%.

I agree Dave. If he just stayed in the red, he could have been great. But he tried to suck up to the liberals, and look what good that did the country. He only proved even more why liberalism is so horrible! I mean what the hell, I can't get away from 'em even in my own party!

I think anybody who supports him now does so strictly for "religious values" or because they employ illegal immigrants and are makin bucks of our backs.

**Papewaio** · 05-15-2006, 05:26

Nah Nah Nah Na Na!

Well our tenth year of conservative goverment has put in yet another surplus budget, is tough on illegal immigration, didn't sign the Kyoto agreement, is in every 'helping form democracy' that the US is in plus East Timor, Solomons and Fiji, and upped the bonus for having children to $4k a pop!

Ah a conservatives wet dream.

**Divinus Arma** · 05-15-2006, 05:46

Hmmm. I always kinda liked New Zealand. Ever been there?

**Xiahou** · 05-15-2006, 05:52

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Ah a conservatives wet dream.

Well, except for your country's stance on guns.

Originally Posted by Dev Dave

Tomorrow night, Bush is going to give a speech on immigration. I'm sure it will be weak with a bunch of nods, winks, and smirks. It will all be a bunch of tough talk and zero action.

Actually, from what I'm hearing Bush is likely to announce the deployment of the Nation Guard to the border... although, Im not sure that's much better.

**Reverend Joe** · 05-15-2006, 05:53

IT'S NOT LIBERAL! IT'S LEFTIST!

DAMNIT!

The Oxford English Dictionary definition for Liberal:
"Free from narrow prejudice; open-minded, candid."

The Oxford English Dictionary definition for Leftist:
"An adherent of 'the left' in politics."

**Papewaio** · 05-15-2006, 06:10

Originally Posted by Divinus Arma

Hmmm. I always kinda liked New Zealand. Ever been there?

I'm a West Islander...New Zealand is made up of many Islands the two largest the North and South... a Kiwi who lives in Australia is cheekily referred to as a West Islander... I have citizenship to both.

New Zealand is great fun to live in. Great seafood, not so good coffee (I'm spoilt in Sydney), great rugby team, green beautiful forest... basically if you are an outdoors person it is a great place to live and grow up.

**Kanamori** · 05-15-2006, 06:19

ehem, the demon liquor.:(

**Byzantine Prince** · 05-15-2006, 08:06

Why would Bush give a crap about an aproval rating now, he can't be re-elected. I thinks he just does whatever he feels like and has been since he got second term. I would too if I was him.

**rory_20_uk** · 05-15-2006, 16:59

Dave, if "great" means "insular" that would be the only way i can square the circle.

The economy is bombing as it is with the largest trade deficit in living memory. Can you afford to weaken it further by getting rid of cheap labour?

**Aurelian** · 05-15-2006, 19:41

He had a great chance to continue the United States greatness by representing Conservative Americans and making our beliefs policy. This country would be even greater than it is now. But he's failed his Conservative base. I don't know why Bush is so hated by the Left, he's spent the most ever on BS socialist programs and worthless limp-wristed causes than any president in the history. This man is the President of the liberal, not the conservative. This man has done more harm to the Conservative movement than any pinko commie socialist hippy could ever even in their wildest drug induced dream!!! Devastatin Dave

It's funny that you feel that way because that's the way a lot of people on the left felt about Clinton. He gave us NAFTA (against the labor wing of his party), big welfare cuts, a balanced budget, relaxation of regulations on finance, etc. I've been telling people that he was the last good Republican president. He just acted like a Northeastern Rockefeller Republican from the wing of the Republican party that doesn't exist anymore.

Bush doesn't govern like a liberal though. The prescription drug package wasn't set up the way a liberal would have set it up (using the government's bargaining power to get the best price out of the drug companies). It was set up to allow the pharmaceutical industry to suckle off the government's teat at the highest price possible.

I don't know what other liberal policies you can say he's pursued.

He's spent most of his time trying to find ways to get around the checks and balances on the abuse of executive power that are built into our system. He's more like a conservative absolute monarchist than anything else. The 'Unitary Executive' stuff that Alito and his ilk like.

Remember all Bush's 'things would be easier if this were a dictatorship, as long as I'm the dictator' comments? Not very liberal.

I will agree that he's done a lot to harm the conservative movement, but mostly because he's incompetent, tyrannical, and un-American rather than liberal.

**Major Robert Dump** · 05-15-2006, 20:15

I gotta tell ya, guys, I don't think this is some Bush secret agenda to comply with liberals because he has nothing to gain from doing so.

Instead, it likely has something to do with a personal interest/agenda with Bush and people in his administration. This is how politicians work, especialy when they don't have acountability. I'm not going to toss the word "corrupt" around because I don't have any proof that hasn't been waged in our faces before, but Bush and co. are looking out for Bush and co., not fulfiling some evil conspiracy to apease liberals.

Oddly enough, I have a lot of conservative christians in my family, including my old parents, who swear they will never vote Republican again in national elections. These arent educated people by any means, but they arent dumb. They see it more as a failing of the Republican party and an issue of trustwothyness, and not as an issue of seling out to the left. The parties pick their candidates through a primary delegation that is a joke, Bush was the nominee from the day he announced candidacy, as was Gore and Kery.

I'm sure they'll be saying the same about the next Democrat who becomes president, remember Clinton angered plenty within his party in his last 4 years.

But it is easier to blame everything on the liberals