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    hey, somhow this thread says it was started by Ser Clegane from the Arena Forum. I started this though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by diablodelmar
    hey, somhow this thread says it was started by Ser Clegane from the Arena Forum. I started this though!
    Don't worry - there's some wierd bug with the forums whereby Admins posts are often not visible on the forum lists and where threads they participate in can incorrectly be assigned to them. They are working hard to track down the bug, but no luck yet.

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    Does anyone know where I can get the music of Civ.4?
    Band and or music name.
    In particular the music that’s playing in the main and load screen
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    You can find it in the folder, it goes Civ4 (or whichever folder name you have, the main folder)/Assets/Sounds/Soundtrack

    The music is divided by eras, with the non-era connected music in the folder directly (others are in subfolders). Music heard in the diplomacy screen is in the Diplomacy folder in the Sounds folder.

    EDIT: a wrong folder name corrected.
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    For any further information on CivIV go to www.civfanatics.com. Those guys are hardcore civvers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upxl
    In particular the music that’s playing in the main and load screen
    It is the Lord's prayer in Swahili and it is magnificent isn't it? Try asking in the civfanatics forum - there used to be a massive thread devoted to it.

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    Thnx guys for the fast replies.



    Quote Originally Posted by econ21
    It is the Lord's prayer in Swahili and it is magnificent isn't it? .
    It sure is my friend.
    I’m going to buy the cd anyway.
    True art it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by econ21
    It is the Lord's prayer in Swahili and it is magnificent isn't it? Try asking in the civfanatics forum - there used to be a massive thread devoted to it.
    Thats correct. Are you a member of CFC? Look out for me "diablodelmar" with 700+ posts.

    Here's the thread econ21 is refering to:
    http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...ight=baba+yetu
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    I resent your poll choices, I certainly have taste :P. I don't plan on buying Civ 4 because my experience with it turned so sour despite my initial enthusiasm and enjoyment with it. I played it every day for a few weeks, stopped and gave it away to my friend. Some of the limitations seemed so frustratingly arbitrary (like not being able to make armies in the very early stages) and the game over all so inflexible. Only a radically improved game could tempt me back. I've heard though Civ4 isn't really that different from the last incarnation.

    I'd rather have a more flexible civilization simulator, mixing elements from the TW series and the good stuff from the Civ series. I yearn for something realistic (but still playable) and very dynamic where societies could rise, fall, splinter, transform, where economics, geography, environmental factors, and movement of technology all are important. Something that makes you feel like you are really playing with history, or something that is really involving anyways. It could easily ignore actual historic events, people and earth geography for all I care. Something I like about MTW is that your actions feel relevant historically, while CIV 3 is very abstract. Ahwell, it is a lot to wish for.

    Ironically, I enjoyed the demo of Alpha Centauri a great deal and hope to aquire the full game somehow. Maybe I will check out this Galactic civilizations too. If there is a demo for Civ4, I will give it a try because I shall not spend money on it otherwise. I'm kinda still open to it though I have strong expectations.
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    @NodachiSam. I like both Total War and Civilization, but I don't want them both to be the same game. The whole idea of the game is to do whatever you wish in the course of creating your empire. What version of Civ were you playing? #3? I definitly think, judging by what you have said, that you would enjoy the latest version, #4. You do feel you are dealing with relavent history, particularly when completeing wonders and also when Great People (great scientists, Prophets, Engineers, Artists and Merchants) are born. GPs are a new and wonderfully fun part of Civ4, each one having different talents and abilities to help you.

    I would definitly recommend that you try it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NodachiSam
    I played it every day for a few weeks, stopped and gave it away to my friend. Some of the limitations seemed so frustratingly arbitrary (like not being able to make armies in the very early stages) and the game over all so inflexible.
    A rather common complaint about the civ games, sometimes it feels like you're just clicking end of turn or building whatever the computer suggests. It takes a little time and some experience before you're able to really 'control' your civilizations long term evolution imo.

    But about the lack of armies: I'm usually a peaceful player and I think Civ is at its best when you don't go warmongering all over the map, although that can be fun too, I usually find the slow movement speeds frustrating when making war. Galactic Civ doesn't really have this problem (or to a lesser extent) since you can upgrade your ships' engines to make them go further per turn. So if you are more into warfare than peaceful development I suggest you check that game out. (Both CIV and Gal Civ II have demos available)
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    Lack of armies? Play warlords if your worried about that mate! In that you will have access to massive armies!
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    I think the best Civ is simply Civ III! :)

    Edit:

    And to stay on topic: I do have it, but it really haven't got me stickied except for 4 hours, and that's a total. So I think you know what my opinion on the expansion would be ;)
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    It was Civ3 I owned. I'll look for the demo and give it a try I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    But about the lack of armies: I'm usually a peaceful player and I think Civ is at its best when you don't go warmongering all over the map, although that can be fun too, I usually find the slow movement speeds frustrating when making war.
    Yes, both the absurdly slow movement speeds and the very slow army build rate are serious problems with the Civ paradigm IMO.

    It shouldn't take you literally decades to raise a single soldier! You should be able to raise your entire army instantly, in a single turn, like you can in a game like Imperialism II. The size of your armies should only be tied to the amount of resources you have available to build them, it shouldn't be time dependent at all in a game where each turn represents years of time.

    And yes, I agree the movement speeds of units are much too slow. I think Civ would be more fun if they gave all combat units the ability to move half a dozen tiles or so a turn, and that they had zones of control extending into each adjacent tile which forced opposing units to halt their movement. In other words, make the whole thing more like a conventional wargame. There'd be a lot more action, and it would be a lot more fun.

    I was modding the game along just these lines at one stage but I got bored with it.

    I've had wars in Civ that lasted over a thousand years and with maybe one or two cities changing hands. Ridiculous.

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    I loved this game........for like,2 weeks,hell,just 1 week,then I quit playing it....my Amazon Account is going to have a new Vistior....

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    Screwtype: I think that feature of being able to train mulitple units at one time would benefit the total war series too. In RTW you would be able to control population growth more easily if you could summon a whole lot of peasants at once. I think another way to do it would be if you could train one of each unit type in a province at once, according to what facilities you have in there. So in one province you would be able to make an archer unit, a swordsman, a spearman, some calvary and be working on a ship at the same time. Historically, the docks wouldn't stop working because the barracks are being used.... That way you could pump out armies much more quickly in accordance to your resources of course. I think that that's a fine idea.

    So I've played the demo a few times and it has its charms. I'll try to borrow it from my friend to see how it plays because the demo is really limited with 1 tiny map, 4 civs, and 100 turns. It seems really hard to play any type of military compaign due to the things you noted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NodachiSam
    Screwtype: I think that feature of being able to train multiple units at one time would benefit the total war series too.
    You may not have heard, but M2TW will have this feature! Now you can apparently train multiple units in a city in a given turn. I can't recall the exact details of how they've implemented it but from what I read it sounded like a very positive new feature, and one long overdue IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube
    If you want a new 4x game, get Galactiv Civilizations II, not Civ IV.
    I'm not sure what you mean by a "4x" game, but I did play the demo of GalCiv and thought it had some potential. However, I think it's too expensive at current prices. I'm waiting (hoping) for the price to come down a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by screwtype
    You may not have heard, but M2TW will have this feature! Now you can apparently train multiple units in a city in a given turn. I can't recall the exact details of how they've implemented it but from what I read it sounded like a very positive new feature, and one long overdue IMO.
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    Screwtype: That is really cool! I'm glad to hear it:)

    So I downloaded the Galactic Civ2 demo and holy crap am I impressed! There is no contest here! Its 5 to 10 times as fun, longer, deeper, and half the file size of the Civ4 demo. Also it allows you to save and load your games. What really makes the game for me is being able to design your own spaceships. :D I am definitely going to keep my eye out for this if I see it in stores.

    As for Civ, I'll wait for the next installment to see if its any better. I'm still looking for a copy of Alpha Centauri though. I'd buy it on the net but don't feel good about using my credit card.

    Edit: Playing it a little more has tempered my enthusaism but I'll still buy it if I see if for a good price.
    Edit2: Okay I just found the thread that was going around here :D I'll be picking this puppy up asap!
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    You can save your games in Civ IV.

    What is Gal civ? I've never played it.
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    I mean the demo of galactic civilizations 2 lets you save and reload while the Civ4 demo does not.
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    Is anybody still playing this game? I got it yesterday, but I haven't enjoyed it too much yet! The tutorial played fine but when I finished it I decided to play on for a while, but at a certain moment the game froze. Reloaded the savegame and it seemed to crash when autosaving.
    Started a new game, but when I discovered "meditation", the game zooms in to the capital, plays a tune, starts autosaving and.... freezes. I tried to load the game a couple of times, but I always crashes.

    Anyone has a suggestion? I couldn't find an option to turn off autosaving, so I'm afraid my Civ IV "career" will not have lasted longer than 1 hour. A bit an expensive game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky Lady
    Anyone has a suggestion?
    1) First off, check you meet the system requirements by using:

    www.srtest.com

    It's rather a demanding game.

    2) I guess you've installed the latest patches? They improved performance, IIRC.

    3) Update your graphic card drivers.

    4) I would try posting for help on some of the Civ game sites - e.g. civfanatics. It seems to have a very large community. They might be able to suggest tweaks etc that help.

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    Hmm, alot of people who disliked CivIV for some reason. I loved the game myself, even when I had it chugging along on my GF2. I also liked Warlords, especially the Warring States China scenario it included with it. But anyway, back to the matter at hand.

    Yeah first thing is to be sure you've updated the game. Once you've done that i'd try turning off/down all the graphics. I believe what it crashed on was zooming to to the city that founded a religion/spawned a great prophet. I can't remember if it normally plays a movie there or not, might be the part you're having problems with.

    Beyond that all I can recommend is checking the main game website for tech suport, or going to www.apolyton.net and www.civfanatics.com for the excelllant fan forums there. The devs visit and post on both, so if its a real serious thing you should be able to get help for it.
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    i recently got Civ4 of a friend, for cheaper, who disliked it because he said it was like Civ3 but with 'pretty' graphics and a little less flexibility, i've been playing it for quite a while but i find it quite tiresome already... it is a good game i agree but it hasn't gripped me like rome has... or civ3 did, i've played alpha centauri more than both of them because i love the gameplay and would sorely like to try out the expansion 'alien crossfire' (or something)

    what i would like in a civ5 would be a lot more dynamically changable units like if you discover bronze you get a bronze armed foot soldier, then you think about sticking him in a chariot, then you realise that you could armour him (basically this is similar to alpha centauri in that you have a 'workshop' and can alter/create units) and also a way to change the governments instead of having preset ones which are basically real life ideas and not things which come about from a different set of situations... its hard to explain but basically i didn't like Civ4 enough to continue playing... oblivion and rtw stopped that

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    I liked it a bit, I really think the longbowmen are imbalanced though. They just screw over virtually anything.

    That said, I'm rubbish at the game, so maybe I just need to compensate for that


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    Quote Originally Posted by Orb
    I liked it a bit, I really think the longbowmen are imbalanced though. They just screw over virtually anything.
    Maybe I missed something, as I found archers - including longbowmen - pretty lousy units; good for city defence only.

    If there was any imbalance, I thought it was the axemen/macemen - they seemed a little too good all round.

    I did love my redcoats though. Sometimes unbalanced is good.

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    CivIV is nice, better than CivIII atleast, but not not my favorite game.
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