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    You certainly are a good argument against smoking Warman.

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    To answer his question.. Yes, I smoke because I want my family, friends, and more importantly, myself, to die young. You silly sod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHCWarman88
    it is..


    Why Smoke?? you want to Smoke to Be Cool, to look like aReal Man/Woman and to Relax?? or you want to do that and aslo get lun cancer and die in 20 years,eh,and also posion other people with the trash you do. Fun,isn't it??
    Oh yes, of course, i want to smoke because i can get lung cancer and die, or so i can look cool.

    God, same old same old arguments blithering on about crap.

    Don't knock it till you've tried it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiciar
    To answer his question.. Yes, I smoke because I want my family, friends, and more importantly, myself, to die young. You silly sod.

    I think the point is that you and possibly some of your family members will in all likeliness die young because of smoking. If you don't actually want that, then that's really silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by currywurry
    Oh yes, of course, i want to smoke because i can get lung cancer and die, or so i can look cool.

    God, same old same old arguments blithering on about crap.

    Don't knock it till you've tried it.


    lol,

    Don't Knock it Till you tried it??

    I will NEVER Try it.. What,go see some Gang Members and say "let me smoke and blow some smoke rings" so I can see how it feels?? I see nothing funny here about Smoking.. When I am 40 or 50, and when you around the same age or older, and I say "Hey Prince" "Hey Curry" "why you got cancer now eh?"

    Same Old Arugments??
    What the Hell Else am I suppose to say?? that Smoking is cool and Relaxing?? My God, IT NOT, mabye to you,but Meh, I ain't posting in this thread.. Too stupid and if you can't realize the affects of Smoking,then you going to be a victim like everyone else who die from Lung Cancer..

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    If you don't actually want that, then that's really silly.
    I don't think anyone wants that. But I won't be flabbergasted if it happens to me, and I wont try to blame something else.

    My God, IT NOT, mabye to you
    That's the point, mate. You can't seem to see beyond your own nose. It is relaxing to me, and tbh I don't care if you don't care, you mean nothing to me as I mean nothing to you. Most smokers know that it's harmful, and ultimately, they don't care. If they did they'd quit.
    When Adam delved and Eve span, Who was then the gentleman? From the beginning all men by nature were created alike, and our bondage or servitude came in by the unjust oppression of naughty men. For if God would have had any bondsmen from the beginning, he would have appointed who should be bound, and who free. And therefore I exhort you to consider that now the time is come, appointed to us by God, in which ye may (if ye will) cast off the yoke of bondage, and recover liberty. - John Ball

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    I think smoking is disgusting and it is an immediate turnoff when girls smoke, no matter how attractive they are. Second hand smoke is dangerous and that is why I believe smoking should be banned. Hey, pollute your own body if you want, but I don't want to go down with you. I absolutely hate the smell too.

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    sobody name one thing that is good about smoking


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowhead418
    I think smoking is disgusting and it is an immediate turnoff when girls smoke, no matter how attractive they are.
    Frankly, I don't think it makes them any less attractive. For some of them, in fact, I find it to be a good look.
    (Of course, they're killing themselves slowly... but who am I to complain? I smoke, drink, et cetera...)

    And yes, BHCWarman88, you need to be "experienced" before your voice truly has any validity. Until then, you are just another tiny part of the din.

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    I think it's basically disgusting. Not just because it's unhealthy. In places where tabac grows (countries with a lot of poverty), people get more money when they deliver tabac to the west, then when they deliver food to their own country. >>> only tabac, no food >>> death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiciar
    Most smokers know that it's harmful, and ultimately, they don't care. If they did they'd quit.
    Oh, I believe many of them start to care when extremities are begining to fall off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zorba
    And yes, BHCWarman88, you need to be "experienced" before your voice truly has any validity. Until then, you are just another tiny part of the din.
    Yeah, just as you have to be overrun by a truck before you can know that it sucks
    No, in fact, trying out smoking is the worst way to gain an informed opinion about it. Smokers have more misconceptions about smoking than non-smokers (except Soulforged). For example, smokers believe that smoking is relaxing. It is not, smokers are on average not more relaxed than non-smokers. It is just if smokers don't smoke for some time, they feel stress. If they smoke than that stress is reduced. But that has nothing to do with a positive effect of smoking, only easing the craving. If they stop smoking and manage to get past the craving, they would be not less relaxed than as a smoker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettkicker19
    sobody name one thing that is good about smoking
    As has been stated, it makes you feel good and look cool.
    Nobody is making anyone smoke, people have personal responsibility for their actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
    As has been stated, it makes you feel good and look cool.
    Nobody is making anyone smoke, people have personal responsibility for their actions.
    Somebody is making thousands of people die of passing smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettkicker19
    sobody name one thing that is good about smoking
    Smoking a good cigar is quite enjoyable, actually.



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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Saturnus
    Yeah, just as you have to be overrun by a truck before you can know that it sucks


    A person does have to experience being run over by a truck before they can begin to describe how it feels. You and I have no idea what being run over by one really feels like.
    Quote Originally Posted by A. Saturnus
    For example, smokers believe that smoking is relaxing. It is not, smokers are on average not more relaxed than non-smokers. It is just if smokers don't smoke for some time, they feel stress. If they smoke than that stress is reduced. But that has nothing to do with a positive effect of smoking, only easing the craving. If they stop smoking and manage to get past the craving, they would be not less relaxed than as a smoker.

    I would like to see your study, and I'm skeptical of it -- many studies that people speak of are often disreputed after they have been made but many people conitinue to speak of their conclusions as if they have validity. I wonder, how is the causal relationship shown that smokers are more stressed in their lives that they feel more stressed? Also, I think that your reference is to those who are terribly, and sadly, dependent on the drug in the very real physical sense. This speaks nothing of the other users who are not dependent on the drug, and also experience a feeling of relaxation. Beside all that, I wonder, what place does another person have telling someone what types of activities they find personally relaxing? I can find walking through woods relaxing, and quite frankly, no other person is in any place to tell me that it is not relaxing to me.

    In answer to the previous question regarding the division between psychological and physical I answer that: The distinction is important, because the physical aspect of an addiction cannot be controlled, beside monitoring dosage, whereas the psychological 'addiction' can be controlled. If it were uncontrollable, nobody would ever be able to beat any sort of addiction. It is quite possible to have the positive effects of nicotine without having addiction, cancer, or tarred up lungs. Through the thread, people have been speaking as if lighting up once, or even 3,000 times through the course of time, necessarily led to those things. Only continued, obsessive, use at high doses accomplishes that. The drug cannot force a person to go find the drug, and it does not alter their brain chemistry in such a way that the person has no choice but to follow their body on a walk down the street to the smoke shop. As to it's smell, I enjoy the smell and taste of cigars, if somebody else cannot stand to be around me because of that, I couldn't care less; I am myself, and I do not cater to how someone else would like me to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice
    Smoking a good cigar is quite enjoyable, actually.
    Except it will KILL you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice
    Smoking a good cigar is quite enjoyable, actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by bettkicker19
    Except it will KILL you.
    "Yeah... well, that's just, like... your opinion, man."

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    You're craisey; where did you find that?!?!?


    ...edit for future: okay, okay, I'll keep it serious, in the future
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    Quote Originally Posted by A.Saturnus
    No, in fact, trying out smoking is the worst way to gain an informed opinion about it.
    You should try out when you are 7 years old (like I did ) ... good chance that you will dislike it so much that you won't try again for the years to come ... I smoked a couple of cigs again when I was 20, but didn't like it then either

    I think I'll stick with the alcohol

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    i dont smoke myself but dont mind other people smoking, its entirely their choice...

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    I personally dont smoke and dont plan on doing so anytime soon. I guess it is other people's choice if they smoke or not, although i wouldn't recommend it. It does do alot of harm to your body over a long period of time.
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    a smoking poll here in the org? hmmmm.....

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