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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Hardly.

    America needs this element of society to do the menial work, and be content doing it. A capitalistic society needs an underclass to do the worst, lowest paid jobs without too much objection.

    Just like everything else in America: the more money you have, the better education you can get for your kids. Of course the kid's level of studiousness also must be high to achieve good results.

    The intelligent upper classes go to private schools and learn the skills they need to manipulate those public school graduates who are barely literate. And the GDP continues to rise, and America becomes even richer. Thats how it works.

    The only travesty is that the percentage of stupid americans has fallen to such a low point that we are having to employ illegals to do the shit work.


    Oh yea, I love how Kafir tried to tie religion and general stupidity together. Religious schools, especially Catholic ones, are some of the best in the nation.
    If you're taught the ideals of a religion that is dominant in this country, I'm sure it helps.

    Also, I think you bring up a good point about the menial work, but I think, we could deffinetly lower the standards for letting immagrants work here. Instead of keeping everyone stupid, maybe we could bring people who need the jobs from across the border. I'm not condoning the employment of illegals, just maybe lower the standards.

    EDIT: I do however find something disturbing in your post. Just because someone is born poor, they do not have a right to a good education? Is that what you're saying, because that's awful in my opinion.
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    Any time religion is used to put us educationally back in the Dark Ages, it is a bad influence on public education. We're not talking about Catholicism, here, but good ol' Protestant evangelists, like Bush.

    Creationism! Oh my god! No wonder the Sun revolves around the flat Earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    Any time religion is used to put us educationally back in the Dark Ages, it is a bad influence on public education. We're not talking about Catholicism, here, but good ol' Protestant evangelists, like Bush.

    Creationism! Oh my god! No wonder the Sun revolves around the flat Earth.
    Oh look a generalization. Care to guess how many Protestant evangelists believe that the earth revolves around the sun?
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
    Oh look a generalization. Care to guess how many Protestant evangelists believe that the earth revolves around the sun?
    Enlighten me...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon
    Enlighten me...
    Go to a Protestant evangelist church and you will enlighten yourself.

    I went to one for about a year after the Esipocal Church in my area changed its doctrine - ie its no longer that type of protestant church.

    Some evangelists were just as intelligent as I, several spoke three languages to include russian. One was a doctor, etc. Basically from all walks of life.

    That particlur church also had its fair share of knuckle heads - but generalizations for the most part are inaccurate.

    I could point out the number of knuckleheads that have absolute no religion that believe a whole spectrum of things. Because of their own lack of education.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
    Go to a Protestant evangelist church and you will enlighten yourself.
    I went to one for about a year after the Esipocal Church in my area changed its doctrine - ie its no longer that type of protestant church.

    Some evangelists were just as intelligent as I, several spoke three languages to include russian. One was a doctor, etc. Basically from all walks of life.

    That particlur church also had its fair share of knuckle heads - but generalizations for the most part are inaccurate.

    I could point out the number of knuckleheads that have absolute no religion that believe a whole spectrum of things. Because of their own lack of education.
    That's not what I asked for...


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    come to my church talk...
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon
    That's not what I asked for...
    You have been enlightened. Just because you don't recongize it does not mean it is not enlightenment.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    Any time religion is used to put us educationally back in the Dark Ages, it is a bad influence on public education. We're not talking about Catholicism, here, but good ol' Protestant evangelists, like Bush.

    Creationism! Oh my god! No wonder the Sun revolves around the flat Earth.
    The notion that the Catholic church said that the Earth was flat is a widespread and persistent myth.
    They supported Ptolemy's model of the universe, in wich the sun and spherical planets revolved around a spherical Earth. The fact that the Earth is round was known even by the ancient Hellenes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec
    The notion that the Catholic church said that the Earth was flat is a widespread and persistent myth.
    They supported Ptolemy's model of the universe, in wich the sun and spherical planets revolved around a spherical Earth. The fact that the Earth is round was known even by the ancient Hellenes.
    I was being facetious, and I was not referring to the Catholics. I was referring to the Protestants who believe that the story of Genesis is true and want the rest of the country to believe it as well.

    To me, disregarding evolution and/or believing humans were created by a god suddenly is as bad as believing the Earth is flat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    I was being facetious, and I was not referring to the Catholics. I was referring to the Protestants who believe that the story of Genesis is true and want the rest of the country to believe it as well.

    To me, disregarding evolution and/or believing humans were created by a god suddenly is as bad as believing the Earth is flat.
    Ah making generalizations about Protestants again I see. Tsk Tsk...
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
    Ah making generalizations about Protestants again I see. Tsk Tsk...
    My statement about Protestants has a qualifier.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    My statement about Protestants has a qualifier.
    And it is still a generalization.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    42 million? That number seems to be a bit fudged. It would put our literacy rate at 86% somehow I think thats not right
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    My statement about Protestants has a qualifier.
    Np it dosent. Tachi you know what happens when I go to church on Sunday? I sing a couple hymns give a cuople of dollars and I sit and look over at the redhead who Ive been talking to wondering when Ill finally get lucky. The sermons speak not of moral decay but of peace and forgivness and once we leave the preacher who happens to live next door grabs a magarita and we eat. Were not insane.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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