There are some nice ones...

[yesdachi]

I had originally thought you were being sarcastic but after reading further along in the thread you are serious. You seriously think she is doing good and you seriously think allowing the illegals to remain is ok. I can’t think of a bigger mistake the US could make. Invading Iraq was a plan of genius compared to allowing the nearly 20 million (this is a more accurate number than your 11) illegal immigrants (which would quickly turn into 200 million, via bring your family along immigration rules and new births over the course of just a few years, if they were granted some kind of amnesty) to stay.

The US can not take on a burden of such magnitude without collapsing. And why would we want to? To be nice? Pffffftt not me, I’m having a hard enough time paying my own bills and securing my families future. A future that I have been working on for over 30 years. No one should be able to hop a fence or swim a river or cross a dry rocky piece of land and be given all the things I have been busting my butt for. There are no free rides on this bus, baby, and I don’t see many illegals with a token, actually my bus isn’t free AND it doesn’t have any vacancy’s either, unless you go thru the proper immigration channels. I don’t feel any compulsion to offer them any assistance at all. IMO, if they want more they should be storming the gates to Fox’s house rather than storming across our boarder.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

I had originally thought you were being sarcastic but after reading further along in the thread you are serious. You seriously think she is doing good and you seriously think allowing the illegals to remain is ok. I can’t think of a bigger mistake the US could make. Invading Iraq was a plan of genius compared to allowing the nearly 20 million (this is a more accurate number than your 11) illegal immigrants (which would quickly turn into 200 million, via bring your family along immigration rules and new births over the course of just a few years, if they were granted some kind of amnesty) to stay.

The US can not take on a burden of such magnitude without collapsing. And why would we want to? To be nice? Pffffftt not me, I’m having a hard enough time paying my own bills and securing my families future. A future that I have been working on for over 30 years. No one should be able to hop a fence or swim a river or cross a dry rocky piece of land and be given all the things I have been busting my butt for. There are no free rides on this bus, baby, and I don’t see many illegals with a token, actually my bus isn’t free AND it doesn’t have any vacancy’s either, unless you go thru the proper immigration channels. I don’t feel any compulsion to offer them any assistance at all. IMO, if they want more they should be storming the gates to Fox’s house rather than storming across our boarder.

I'm not saying we should allow them to stay. I think, A) People are making too big a deal of it, and B) People are unrealistically thinking we can take all these illegals out of here. It's too big a task, we need to find a temporary solution. I don't know what that is, but it's not my job. Give me a link that states it's about 20 million instead of 11.

[scooter_the_shooter]

I'm not saying we should allow them to stay. I think, A) People are making too big a deal of it, and B) People are unrealistically thinking we can take all these illegals out of here. It's too big a task, we need to find a temporary solution. I don't know what that is, but it's not my job. Give me a link that states it's about 20 million instead of 11.

We don't need to get rid of all of them just most of them take their stuff too, send them back with just the clothes on their backs and a meal. I know it is brutal and cruel; but it is better for the crountry in the long run.

[Papewaio]

Even if the US made all 20 million illegal immigrants legal it would still mean that the US has a foreign born population percentage of less then 20%.

298,444,215 (source CIA Factbook)
Foreign born population 10.4% (source NationMaster)
20,000,000 would add another 6.7% to the foreign born population.

So you would have a total foreign born population percentage of 17.1%

Canada has a foreign born population of 17.4%.

Australia has a foreign born population of 23%, a health care system for all, a government surplus... and as for trade we have a trade surplus with the Chinese, export camels to Saudi Arabia, export rice to South East Asia and export Vodka to Russia...

In short I don't think the American economy would collapse if it took on a larger amount of immigrants.

However any country has the right to decide whom they will let in to become a tourist, resident or citizen.

[yesdachi]

I'm not saying we should allow them to stay. I think, A) People are making too big a deal of it, and B) People are unrealistically thinking we can take all these illegals out of here. It's too big a task, we need to find a temporary solution. I don't know what that is, but it's not my job. Give me a link that states it's about 20 million instead of 11.

Most sources claim between 11 and 20 million, I choose to prepare for the worst and be pleasantly surprised if we ever find out that the numbers are better.

The Wall Street investment firm Bear Stearns has published a new report, “The Underground Labor Force is Rising to the Surface,” which claims that the illegal alien population is double the official government estimates. According to Bear Stearns analysts, Robert Justich and Betty Ng, the illegal alien population of the U.S. is about 20 million—roughly the population of New York State.

links: 1 2 3 4

The 20 million number isn’t even the biggest issue, it’s the fact that if they are given any kind of “legal” status they are then able to bring in family who can stay here while going thru the process of becoming a citizen. Say each illegal brought in/sponsored a parent, spouse, child and a sibling. Then the spouse brought in a parent, the sibling brought in a spouse and child, etc. Even if the number is 11 million, in 5 years its going to be over a hundred million, how’s that going to effect the economy?

[Incongruous]

I have some negative views towards Christians

You now what man...
(Edited by Ser Clegane - please refrain from making such personal attacks) So I guess the kids who go round being dicks allday and wagging class who are of a certain race should be able to get all the freebees later on while I work my ass off. Ha and while being a Christian at the same time. So I guess to you I'm as bad as they come A
WHITE
MIDDLE CLASS
ROMAN CATHOLIC
WHO DOES WELL AT SCHOOL

CRAP I SHOULD JUST IMPRISON MYSELF NOW HUH?

[PanzerJaeger]

CRAP I SHOULD JUST IMPRISON MYSELF NOW HUH?

No, you should seek to imprison those whites and minorities who are trying to destroy the great society white, middle class Christians have created in this country.

Stand up for yourself.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

You now what man...
(Edited by Ser Clegane - please refrain from making such personal attacks) So I guess the kids who go round being dicks allday and wagging class who are of a certain race should be able to get all the freebees later on while I work my ass off. Ha and while being a Christian at the same time. So I guess to you I'm as bad as they come A
WHITE
MIDDLE CLASS
ROMAN CATHOLIC
WHO DOES WELL AT SCHOOL

CRAP I SHOULD JUST IMPRISON MYSELF NOW HUH?

I don't really like any religions (you should read the entire post before making personal attacks).

Not to mention, I'm praising someone of your faith. Don't say anything about dicks, if you are going to make those kinds of posts.

[Byzantine Mercenary]

Alexanderofmacedon, don't hate religion, hate those who use it for evil

[Somebody Else]

Alexanderofmacedon, don't hate religion, hate those who use it for evil

Define 'evil'. For that matter, define 'good'.