There are some nice ones...

**Duke Malcolm** · 05-19-2006, 18:09

Indeed, Somebody Else has a good point. Good and Evil are all matters of opinion, each religion has its own interpretation. The missionaries of the 19th Century consider what they did to be good -- spreading their religion, and trying to bring the benefits of their civilisation to the Africans. People now look back and think the missionaries were bad, and in bringing their civilisation to the Africans they subjugated them (or so some believe).

**Byzantine Mercenary** · 05-19-2006, 20:05

Originally Posted by Duke Malcolm

Indeed, Somebody Else has a good point. Good and Evil are all matters of opinion, each religion has its own interpretation. The missionaries of the 19th Century consider what they did to be good -- spreading their religion, and trying to bring the benefits of their civilisation to the Africans. People now look back and think the missionaries were bad, and in bringing their civilisation to the Africans they subjugated them (or so some believe).

opinion! realy! where do they teach this, everyones goin round saying it at the moment!

now if your talking about borderline cases maybe but in the main good can be seperated from evil

are their any comments on what i actually said?

**Alexanderofmacedon** · 05-20-2006, 00:43

No, I think I can hate a religion for what it creates. I don't just hate any particular religion, I don't even really 'hate' religion. I hate the turmoil it creates. It's disgusting in my opinion...

**Byzantine Mercenary** · 05-22-2006, 08:39

Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon

No, I think I can hate a religion for what it creates. I don't just hate any particular religion, I don't even really 'hate' religion. I hate the turmoil it creates. It's disgusting in my opinion...

then say that you hate religion as it can be used as an excuse to do bad things rather then that you just hate it, oh yeah and don't forget to hate football, money, land, women, racism, and everything else in this world that has been fought over or created turmoil

**Duke Malcolm** · 05-20-2006, 12:26

Originally Posted by Byzantine Mercenary

opinion! realy! where do they teach this, everyones goin round saying it at the moment!

now if your talking about borderline cases maybe but in the main good can be seperated from evil

are their any comments on what i actually said?

When there is one religion that everyone follows, with the exact same interpretation, then there will be definitions of Good and Evil is accordance witht the teachings of that universal religion. Without any such dogma, as we have today, there is conflicting interests in Good and Evil. One religion says something is good, another says it is evil. Furthermore, one interpretation of a religion might say something is good, another evil. And the same goes for athiests/agnostics. They have no finite moral code set out in a Holy Book, they have their own individual morals, which may conflict with other athiests/agnostics and even other religions. Good and Evil are always subjective, dependent on one's own views. As they say, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

And if I may digress, those principlse people may act by today may be considered evil in the future, with bad consequences. In improving health throughout the world, improving child mortality rates, raising life expectancies, the population might increase exponentially. This would lead to over-population, there may not be enough food and water to go around, there may even be wars over such resources. Thus something good today -- improving health -- may have evil consequences in the future.

**Byzantine Mercenary** · 05-22-2006, 08:42

Originally Posted by Duke Malcolm

When there is one religion that everyone follows, with the exact same interpretation, then there will be definitions of Good and Evil is accordance witht the teachings of that universal religion. Without any such dogma, as we have today, there is conflicting interests in Good and Evil. One religion says something is good, another says it is evil. Furthermore, one interpretation of a religion might say something is good, another evil. And the same goes for athiests/agnostics. They have no finite moral code set out in a Holy Book, they have their own individual morals, which may conflict with other athiests/agnostics and even other religions. Good and Evil are always subjective, dependent on one's own views. As they say, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

And if I may digress, those principlse people may act by today may be considered evil in the future, with bad consequences. In improving health throughout the world, improving child mortality rates, raising life expectancies, the population might increase exponentially. This would lead to over-population, there may not be enough food and water to go around, there may even be wars over such resources. Thus something good today -- improving health -- may have evil consequences in the future.

look back at the post that started all this, i wasn't trying to judge people according to my moral code as you seem to think , somebody else asked my opnion and i gave it and now you complain that it is my opnion!

now in my opinion there is only one religion with one interpretation which is why the model works in my mind