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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadesWolf
    How about just having HISTORY lessons to talk about where as a country we came from and what the outcome of having an empire has ment.
    Schools everywhere gleefully overlook that part of British History. There are people in Scotland who don't even know Britain had an Empire... all we learn in History is the Jacobite Rebellion and Highland Clearances, Urbanisation in the 19th century, slavery (where white people are blamed for everything, of course), the World Wars, the History of the Welfare State, and the Civil Right Movement in the USA. Oh, and the Romans, the Vikings, and the Wars of Independence.
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    When I was at school, many years ago

    We learnt, prior to me taking it as an option, Russian revolution, French Revolution and the American war of independance. We touched very quickly on the two previous years, as it was called humanities, Norman and Viking history.

    At O level we covered Social and economic history, so basically the Industrial rev
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    i have basically just done history and all we learn of is the 2 world wars, the politics leading to the 2nd world war, the history of medicine (that was so boring ), the russian revolution and a little on vietnam
    in primary we learned about things like the egyptians and the romans but it was so broad that it was hardly a teaching basis

    i learned nothing of the british empire except through my own discoveries thanks to my love of the Sharpe series by Bernard Cornell... i doubt many people do realise that britain had a huge empire that effected the world immensly, when people my age think of an empire they think of either some ancient empire such as the romans, or the current american 'empire'

    maybe we should be teaching about our histories so that young people get a sense of what it is (or was) to be 'British'

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    Same. For GCSE, all we're doing is relatively modern history. From 1914 to 1991, but missing out WWII Hardly any detail on the post WWII era though, just a quick glance. Nothing to do with the Empire. All that our new (****py) teacher told us about the Empire was that 'it's colonies provided money'. Wow. Now that must take a genius to work out, mustn't it? Too much emphasis on modern history in schools IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius
    All that our new (****py) teacher told us about the Empire was that 'it's colonies provided money'.
    This is about all that most people are taught about the Empire. Which leads people onto believing that the people of the colonies were taxed to provide money to Britain. Which is wrong. Money from the colonies was through trade. Taxes on the colonies didn't even pay for all their defence, HM Treasury forked out that bill.
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    We’re Multicultural, right? So just to prove this we’re going to shove these "British values" that we just made up down your throats. Yah. Sure.
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    The worst thing is that i seen some kid get interviewed about it and they said it was racist, now wtf, I think this is a good idea, but they will go about it the wrong way, we should be taught about how awesome it is to be british by relating to the empire, and how we have practically created the modern world single handed.
    But most likley they will just go on about being multi-cultural and how we should all hold hands, smile and get along with eachother, which will never happen.
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    In a separate development, a government-backed study has suggested many Muslims in England face bleak employment prospects and endure poor standards of housing, which fuel feelings of alienation.


    Then why dont they go home ie back over the channel ey?
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    Well, Ragnar, you've just confirmed my concerns about "British values".

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