option bDestroyer of Hope please can you read post #2 in this thread and choose one of options (a), (b) and (c)? Cheers.
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option bDestroyer of Hope please can you read post #2 in this thread and choose one of options (a), (b) and (c)? Cheers.
When it occurs to a man that nature does not regard him as important and that she feels she would not maim the universe by disposing of him, he at first wishes to throw bricks at the temple, and he hates deeply the fact that there are no bricks and no temples
-Stephen Crane
Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
Major edit: just noticed I made an error in not spotting shifty157 is a candidate for Consul. Apologies to TinCow and Mount but this bumps them down one in the order for avatars. List has been revised to reflect this.
OK, a provisional update on the assignment of avatars. At the moment, everyone has chosen their House except, ironically, the person who started this thread, Xiahou Liao. If he passes by before the Tuesday 6pm UK time deadline, then things may change, as obviously he trumps everyone in seniority (which I am reading from the order in which people first posted in this thread or otherwise expressed interest). But given the Senate deliberations are heating up, I think it might be a good idea to let people know what is likely to happen about avatars. However, it's probably wise not to assume your provisional avatars name and personality until this is finally confirmed.
Recall that we have only 4 adult faction members at the start of the game. We have also have four candidates for First Consul and they will each need an avatar. So at the moment, this plus seniority implies:
Quintus => econ21 (it's not a stitch up, honest)
Publius Laevinius => shifty157
Tiberius Coruncanius => FLYdude
Lucius Amelius => DDW
We have four under-age family members. I am going to assign them to members of the Lower House to allow for role-playing development. Obviously they are too young to be Senators per se, but their votes can represent those of allies of their families. And they can be pretend they are precocious kids - think Octavian in the BBC/HBO series Rome (ok, very precocious in the case of Marcus...)
Amulius Coruncanius => TinCow
Manius Aemilius => Mount Suribachi
Decius Laevinus => Glaucus
Marcus Laevinus => Destroyer of Hope
Note - these kids are young and other faction members (e.g. suitable husbands) may appear as adults earlier. In that case, I will give people the opportunity to ditch their kid and pick the newcomer instead (e.g. if they want to stand for First Consul or fight battles etc).
So at the moment, we have a match of 8 faction members and 8 Lower House Senators. (The Lower House senators should note that all this is on the condition that they have successfully loaded up the mod.)
I have also agreed to the interesting request from Ignoramus that he be assigned Sextus Antio, the diplomat, as his avatar. (TinCow, please can you add Sextus's mugshot to the Senate library?)
Apologies to the other Upper House Senators - you will be assigned avatars as soon as they become available. (As I've said before that gives you an incentive to be as expansionist as Rome was in history - due to the cap on generals, more provinces = more avatars). It was important to prioritise the Lower House, as these people will be expected to fight battles on demand if their avatars get involved in them.
People can always freely switch between houses, although this may lead to some re-assignment of avatars. I'd like to keep reassignments to a minimum, of course, as no one likes to lose a character they have come to identify with. I only really want Lower House members to go to the Upper House if they have a work/travel/other real life crisises. And ideally Upper House to Lower House moves should imply the player wants to stand for Consul in the near future.
Let me know if you think there are any errors in the above provisional assignments. Otherwise, I will not update them until the final confirmation at 6pm UK time today.
Last edited by econ21; 05-23-2006 at 10:57.
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Hmm, econ, would it be possible that I stand for the lower house for a few days next week when there's a break? Or would that be just a waste of time?
Also, what about an avatar for Tricky Lady? The daughter of Quintus is an ideal character, being of the correct age and having the connections needed to have any influence in the senate. We can just pretend that she speaks through a male-friend of hers.
Unlucky for picking Decius, senator Glaucus. He always seems to end up getting the worst traits out of the eight starters.
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I think it would be a waste of time. But do you have a longer break over Summer we could work around? If you let me know the dates, I will try to ensure you have an adult avatar in that period and so can productively join the Lower House. IIRC, you are the most senior Senator, so it won't be a problem.Originally Posted by Tiberius
If this were MTW or M2TW then Princesses would be suitable avatars for the Upper House. But one problem with Rome is that the daughter does not have a representation on the map. Tricky_Lady may prefer a conventional Senator, as then he will have more to do e.g. be a governor. But if she wants a daughter, I am happy to oblige. If so, she should have a veto over suitors. I might even let her control the husband - some wives do thatAlso, what about an avatar for Tricky Lady? The daughter of Quintus is an ideal character, being of the correct age and having the connections needed to have any influence in the senate. We can just pretend that she speaks through a male-friend of hers.
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I think I've worked out the mechanics for Senate voting.
I'll post two seperate polls, each in their own thread. They will both be public, so I can check if the voters really are senators and I can take influence into account.
For the motions votes, I will just list every motion and allow multiple votes. Then you can vote yes to as many motions as you want.
I'll post the First Consul voting thread when avatars are confirmed 6pm tonight (henceforth all my times can be taken to be UK ones) and the motions 6pm tomorrow. I'll get them to be open for 3 and 2 days after opening (ie Friday), but will count the votes a little early on 6pm Friday, so the First Consul can start play Friday night if they want to.
Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
It might be appropriate for us to check with the Senate Fixer,DDW about the current status of patches to the mods we are using.
At the RTR forums, I have found this:
Quote is from:
http://forums.rometotalrealism.org/i...=18768&st=140#
The Corrected_RTR_Platinum_Files_v2.0.zip, last edited 19th May, can be downloaded from:
http://www.beaglepc.net/storage/rome...Files_v2.0.zip
Shos’s EDU file, last updatd 21 May can be found at:
http://forums.rometotalrealism.org/i...e=post&id=5603
Both are discussed on page 7 of:
http://forums.rometotalrealism.org/i...=18768&st=120#
Marcus may consolidate 3 & 4 into a single 2.1.zip. But that's not a substantive change. He will be going on vacation soon, so perhaps there will be no further changes apart from anything done to the EDU by Shos and Shanky. However, changes to the EDU are rather easy to patch.
It is rather awkward to have step (5) after (3) and (4), as it means that those of us who have already installed the Metro&Naval mod have to unpick this step. However, this is only really an immediate issue for the First Consul.
I'm not clear why (5) comes after (4) - does Metro&Naval mod not have its own EDU?
If DDW confirms Marcus's information, I will put it and the links on post#2 of this thread.
Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
I looked into it last night, and will make a definite post late this evening, a bit early due to popular demand. I suspect the order of 3-5 is not relevant and can be modified and 3 and 4 be done at a later time. Nevertheless, I advise everyone to keep backups of a Vanilla RTW 1.5 edition and the mods. I will look into this later, but I'm at work at the moment :)
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I don't mean to try and dictate Org policy, but perhaps it would be best to create a sub-forum for The Will of the Senate. I agree that using seperate voting threads will be the easiest to track votes (though I think all discussion should remain in the original thread). However, we're already in danger of overhwelming the Throne Room with Senate material. Too much more and we'll drown this place and start to lose track of our own threads as well. Is a sub-forum a possibility?
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Given that I now have moderator powers here, I don't think a sub-forum will be necessary. We now have four "permanent" threads for this PBM: - two interactive ones - this one and the Senate deliberations thread; and two "reference" ones - the Senate library and the First Consul reports. I don't think this is too much, given that the forum page is not even full when displayed with the default "show posts made in the last 2 weeks".
I am going to create two temporary poll threads for voting - one for the first First Consul; one for all motions submitted this session. No one need post in them - just choose your polls options. After Friday, the threads will be irrelevant. As we have more and more sessions, to avoid such temporary threads cluttering up the forum, I will "age" them, so they slip off the front page.
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Wow. I'm offline for, what, 24 hours, and look at the discussions I've missed!I just spent half an hour reading the two main threads.
Anyway...
As you mentioned HBO's Rome series, it would be great if I could play a "Servilia" or "Atia" who's controlling a puppet senator. So I'd get a female avatar (just the standard "wife" avatar will do for me, it's not that important), but it will be linked to a male senator, who will speak for me.If this were MTW or M2TW then Princesses would be suitable avatars for the Upper House. But one problem with Rome is that the daughter does not have a representation on the map. Tricky_Lady may prefer a conventional Senator, as then he will have more to do e.g. be a governor. But if she wants a daughter, I am happy to oblige. If so, she should have a veto over suitors. I might even let her control the husband - some wives do thatLol, sounds like fun.
Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
Of course, you could always go one step further, and be one of those little aliens in a robot in the form of a human, like in MIB. Or would that be going too far?
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