The Will of the Senate - out of character thread

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 05-25-2006, 17:15

Originally Posted by econ21

BTW, does anyone know anything about Quintus? Tiberius said he was just "some randomer". So is he fictitious? DDW wondered about role-playing him as the father of the faction, but the ages look wrong. I'd prefer it if he were just leader of the Senate and we let the 4 houses[1] grow up organically and independently.

[1] ie the parts of the family tree headed by the 3 other adult faction members + I guess the house TrickyLady's character will soon start.

According to the family tree, we three are sons-in law of Quintus, but I agree to treat them as four distint families. I rather worry that Quintus will nor produce any more offspring however, thus rendering his family extinct eventually.

**econ21** · 05-25-2006, 17:47

Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds

According to the family tree, we three are sons-in law of Quintus, but I agree to treat them as four distint families. I rather worry that Quintus will nor produce any more offspring however, thus rendering his family extinct eventually.

Well, TinCow in the Senate Library has put Tricky_Lady's character as being Quintus's daughter. I don't know what she thinks, but I rather like that. So we will still have four distinct families, but Quintus's bloodline need not die out, even if his family name does (not a big problem, really,as he does not have a family name!).

**Avicenna** · 05-25-2006, 20:33

Four fictional Roman gentes maiores eh? That could work quite well. At least we have one actual gentes maiores, Aemilius.

Tricky_Lady: Could you state what kind of husband you're looking for? Someone strong in command, management or influence? Or do you want a weakling who can be manipulated easily?

**econ21** · 05-25-2006, 22:07

OK, I've had a look at one of DDWs savegames - its 8 turns on from the start and as TinCow reported, none of the four original faction members have any of the new Roman leadership traits. The two new generals do.

The good news is that in the descr_strat.txt in the zipped version of Marcus_Camillus's mod, the gang of four do have some of these traits - at least the military experience ones - whereas in the descr_strat.txt that results from my installing these metro&naval mod, they don't. So it should be straightforward to cut and paste from the relevant bits so the four at least start with some military experience.

Only the First Consul will have to worry about this at the first instance, so we can wait another day to see if anything new emerges and then take stock, doing a little minor modding of our own if the problem is still there. The First Consul can then be the guinea pig.

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 05-25-2006, 23:33

Just a little warning to the future first consul. I've been testing the engine some more. If you get as far as Messana, Carthage will come a'knocking, and the naval invasions work just fine, thank you very much. I must say that landing a full stack of hoplites to intercept just one of my units was a tad overkill by the AI, but effective. Gawds. I've been stuck in Messana for 15 seasons already, getting nowhere, just building up my strength. The fact that you only have three unit-producing cities is a severe limitation on what you can actually accomplish in 20 seasons.

**Ignoramus** · 05-25-2006, 23:49

Why worry about Carthage yet, true, we will need to be careful about her increasing power, but the priority is the defeat of Pyrrhus, in which I fully support Senator Quintus.