The Will of the Senate - out of character thread

[Braden]

Simon, DDW & TinCow, as I’ve just mentioned on another thread I’m completely impressed with this PBM you’re running, the very concept of player involvement is wonderful.

I hope to be able to emulate it in the future. Basically though, I’m finding the array of mods you’re using bewildering to me. I don’t even know where to start to change my Rome version 1.5 over to RTR, let along amend the relevant data files that are listed here.

Anyway, I’m never “that” confident in modding my own files and partitioning save games/Mods like you – we’ve discussed this on PM.

However, what I would like to achieve is a less complex version of your PBM for more entry level PBM’ers – so at the very least I’m looking at using RTR so I can have a Senate of players. See the blatant plagiarism here?

Perhaps it may even be something you’d consider starting once this PBM is well under way? Personally, I can’t undertake my own proposal until I’ve upgraded my PC, which is after I’ve moved home…which is whenever the surveyor gets back to me!....sorry, won’t rant about that issue here.

So, just to say I utterly LOVE this basic idea – Senate control, auto-resolve battles unless there is a PC (Player Character) physically involved, voting, political discussion….all that is just great! As an NPC (Non-Player Character), I’m really enjoying myself just as a member of the Upper Senate….I shudder to think how much MORE fun I’d have if I had a chance of actually conducting a battle now and then.

Well done all involved here, I salute you. This PBM is a “benchmark” for all other PBM’s to work by.

[Death the destroyer of worlds]

I hope to be able to emulate it in the future. Basically though, I’m finding the array of mods you’re using bewildering to me. I don’t even know where to start to change my Rome version 1.5 over to RTR, let along amend the relevant data files that are listed here.

Anyway, I’m never “that” confident in modding my own files and partitioning save games/Mods like you – we’ve discussed this on PM.

Hi,
As the Senate Fixer, I would be glad to help you with getting it all up and running. I can see it would be a bit bewildering at first, but the truth is, it is actually quite easy. Most of the modifications concern text files in the \Data directory. The rest is just a matter of downloading and installing. I'll be glad to answer any specfic questions you might have.
On the matter of starting a new PBM, don't let me stop you. I personally would not play a RTW 1.2 game anymore, as the improvements in 1.5 as so good, there's no going back for me :) I'll probably sit in the upper house if you were to run a RTR 6 gold game for example.
On the matter of playing, once this campaign is well underway, more avatars will be available and you will be able to get some 'action' as it were :)

[econ21]

Thanks for the advice, DDW. Based on what you say, I have updated post #2 with how I intend to install the mod.

I will start the campaign, immediately save a game and then upload the save to the Org. It would be good if when you get home, you download the save and see if it works fine on your install.

Braden: I understand how you feel about installing mods. As you can see from this thread, it's particularly confusing in this case as we are essentially using beta mods and they keep changing. There is some light at the end of the tunnel, though, as Marcus Camillus has proposed locking down the final version of Platinum and then letting people do their own thing with any further mods.

On doing another PBM, my inclination would be to let this one and your Carthaginian one play out for a while. The pool of potential players is only so big. And this one is very much a prototype so while the ideas in it sound really good, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating!

[Braden]

I feel confident that once RTR Platinum has been finalised will use that as a basis for a PBM. I, like DDW, would never go back to anything running under version 1.2 of Vanilla – I personally found the Load/Save bug intolerable.

My current PBM plans are:

1. Maintain focus and momentum in the current Carthage 1.5 PBM.

2. Play Test to establish an “entry level” PBM (BI or Rome 1.5, undecided)

3. Plan ahead (looking a month or so) to a RTR Platinum PBM using similar (though simplified) rules to this Senate one.

I’m not going to overstretch the player base by committing to the my RTR PBM until this RTR PBM is well underway – looking August/September perhaps.

I want to keep my “entry level” PBM quite small, stipulating it is for beginners to PBM’s – hence it will have some specific rules but nothing too complex (perhaps using a more familiar faction), whilst keeping the core game at a VH/Medium setting to challenge the players who are good at the vanilla game but looking for a new challenge. Again though, the start of this will not be for a good few weeks.

[Avicenna]

Can I suggest trying to play another mod Braden? I think after one RTR Roman PBM, the PBM community will prefer to try another mod or another faction. Or, if you do want a Roman RTR PBM badly, we could always download a mod for RTR and use that in the PBM.

[Braden]

Currently I'm considering all options for my third PBM. I'll keep everyone posted and, I'm sure, ask for help when I select what mod I need to run! lol

[shifty157]

Currently I'm considering all options for my third PBM. I'll keep everyone posted and, I'm sure, ask for help when I select what mod I need to run! lol

I think itd be pretty nice to start a PBM that uses Myrdraals script. It would be a three person PBM using RTW Vanilla 1.5 (perhaps with some small mods) and each player would play one of the three Roman factions. I think itd be really interesting to see them truly jokey for power and then finally turn on eachother.

Or my other idea was to play a PBM with five or so people again with Myrdraals script. Each player could choose whatever faction they wanted. Then after a given amount of time (5-10 years) the players would be reassigned a new faction at random. The reassignments would continue to happen throughout the game.