The Will of the Senate - out of character thread

**Death the destroyer of worlds** · 06-02-2006, 15:31

I agree with your line of reasoning Braden and I'll second that. I also propose a maximum of 5 votes (total) for every senator. This will allow our massively influential praetors and consuls to vote on every issue without laying down the law so to speak.
I feel I should mention that almost all of the motions have been seconded by another senator.
I am aware that the motions are similar, but they are seperate propositions.
It is just that if you vote for 7, you will vote for 9. But you might disagree with 7, but not with 9. Hence two seperate motions.
I wish you luck on your career choice, spying is a hazardous profession :)

**econ21** · 06-02-2006, 17:36

Interesting, Braden - I was just thinking the same thing about seconding motions. OK, all motions must have a named Senator second them. I was even thinking about requiring two seconders - Senate debates seem so fractured, it would be good to encourage a little more coherence and collectivism. What do people think?

I don't want to cap influence - it maxs out at 6 votes per player total (10 influence is the highest it goes), so cutting it down to 5 seems not so important. A little self-restraint is probably more effective. We've only played 5 years. When we have more Upper House avatars and people have had more time to get influence, I think it will be less noticable. And I personally think men like Quintus should have great influence.

If it is ok with people, Braden can be our first existing spy (currently in Sicily). Let's say you are a kind of "spymaster" who is tasked with various missions. YAKOBU can be the next diplomat we hire. If any Upper House member wants to be the second spy I just hired in Roma, shout out. It would be good if the people controlling this avatars give suggestions about their deployment to the First Consul. Players probably focus on the armies and may neglect agents.

**Tricky Lady** · 06-02-2006, 18:59

Originally Posted by econ21

Interesting, Braden - I was just thinking the same thing about seconding motions. OK, all motions must have a named Senator second them. I was even thinking about requiring two seconders - Senate debates seem so fractured, it would be good to encourage a little more coherence and collectivism. What do people think?

I think this is a good idea. So that's a "yes" from me

Originally Posted by econ21

If it is ok with people, Braden can be our first existing spy (currently in Sicily). Let's say you are a kind of "spymaster" who is tasked with various missions. YAKOBU can be the next diplomat we hire. If any Upper House member wants to be the second spy I just hired in Roma, shout out. It would be good if the people controlling this avatars give suggestions about their deployment to the First Consul. Players probably focus on the armies and may neglect agents.

: shout :
Well, I was thinking that perhaps for a long-time-not-playing-RTW player like me, it'd be more appropriate if I could control a less important character, such as, why not, a spy.
It's just that maybe someone more experienced wants to use the Titus avatar and run for consul?
Anyway, perhaps I should try & play a few turns in RTR and vanilla RTW to get into the game again. My last campaign dates from December 2005 if memory serves.

**econ21** · 06-02-2006, 20:26

Tricky_Lady - I don't see any need for you to give up your avatar. All Lower House members have a general already, except DoH whose avatar will mature in just a season or two. Why don't you install this mod and have a look? It's rather different from the usual RTW, particularly if you have not played RTR before. But if you are set on dropping Titus Vatinus post again and the deed will be done. The second spy is Quintis Classicianus, aged 28.

Also, just a note to say that the MN mod has been revised, with the culprit of the Rhegium bug taken out, the latest EDU in and (attention Craterus) available to download from something other than rapidshare. I've ammended post #2 accordingly.

EDIT: BTW, Braden, you know have been assigned the spy Decius Curtius. I am sure TinCow will post his mugshot in the library in due course. Decius is currently in Sicily, but personally, I would agitate for him to be sent to Cisalpine Gaul. While there is already a spy in Roma, having two spies in the region would not be excessive - one to watch the road west to transalpine Gaul, the other to scout around our invading army. Some very interesting things are probably happening in Illyria (at war with Greece) that we might want to know about too.