The Will of the Senate - out of character thread

[Ignoramus]

May I ask to be go somewhere from Parthia? I am still the Republic's best diplomat, and unlike Oppius Vintruvius. I am not tactless in my speech. I am insulted that a tactless diplomat would be preferred to an eloquent diplomat who has secured foreign hostages.

[Wishazu]

May I ask to be go somewhere from Parthia? I am still the Republic's best diplomat, and unlike Oppius Vintruvius. I am not tactless in my speech. I am insulted that a tactless diplomat would be preferred to an eloquent diplomat who has secured foreign hostages.

I am insulted! try dealing with the stubborn greeks and see where it gets you, lol

[Braden]

“Black List” – I think that some thing can be changed in the way its put forward so that you can give it some In Character validity:

Firstly, we could change the name from “Black List” to perhaps something like “Target Provinces/Dynasties”, and you can validate this by saying you have weighed up the economic advantages of the regions these Dynasties control and have found they have great potential if they were “absorbed into the Republic”.

You can further validate it by noting the civilisating (ok, not a word but you know what I mean) influence of the Republic on the peoples under the “barbaric yoke” of those factions etc etc. I’m sure you can spool out some rhetoric.

We have to come up with some arguments against the Republic being insular, which will be difficult as the Republic was traditionally insular.

We certainly need to streamline the acceptance or otherwise of alliance requests, validating it In Character is a bit harder but as long as the players are aware Out of Character of the real reason behind this list then I think we won’t have an issue.

I would also suggest that a full list of ALL the in-game “known” factions be made and the Senate can vote who we consider “worthy” of alliance.

[Avicenna]

So we should all become xenophobic expansion-driven greedy ambitious senators?

Great, that sounds reasonably Roman to me really.

[Mount Suribachi]

We have to come up with some arguments against the Republic being insular, which will be difficult as the Republic was traditionally insular.

Given the dumb RTW strategic AI, and the fact we've got about 1000 turns to go, I'm sure they'll attack us sooner or later anyway, therefore removing the need to blacklist them.

So I say make merry with the alliances. We don't need to bother engineering wars of conquest, the AI will give them to us.

[Death the destroyer of worlds]

I agree. I prefer simplicity. How about : Diplomacy is free for the first consul unless expressively forbidden by the senate ? So no alliance with Gaul (yet) or Carthage (yet), but the rest is fair game ? Or no alliances with our enemies, only protectorate will be accepted and alliances with everyone else ?

[econ21]

I've just noticed Illyria was not on our "blacklist". I would have included it, had I remembered it. But maybe we just leave it off? It's down to two settlements, AFAIK, and won't last anyway.

We don't all have to actively work towards taking down the blacklist (although some of us may ) but I think it is a reasonable goal for the campaign that we become the dominant power, which we entail defeating those targeted factions at some stage. I am open to letting some become Protectorates instead of being wiped out. Seleucia, in particular, has vast lands and having to conquer them all means going further than Rome actually did.

Maybe I should have another look at EBs victory conditions for Rome. I seem to recall they were similarly epic and ambitious.

[Mount Suribachi]

think it is a reasonable goal for the campaign that we become the dominant power

Like I said, that will happen anyway. The AI will not be able resist attacking us, and so we will wipe out each faction as they do so. Kinda like how Rome acquired much of her Empire

Seleucia, in particular, has vast lands and having to conquer them all means going further than Rome actually did.

I have no problem whatsoever with building an "un-historical" Roman Empire. The Empire took the size and shape it did due to a series of specific events - wars, births, deaths, elections etc etc. We have already deviated from the timeline that produced those events. I would rather we played the game on its own terms - our actions such be dictated by the strategic & tactical situation combined with role-playing the Senators we produce, all under-pinned by traditional Roman values.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Like I said, that will happen anyway. The AI will not be able resist attacking us, and so we will wipe out each faction as they do so. Kinda like how Rome acquired much of her Empire

Agreed. Your argument here and in the PM makes sense.

BTW, I got your reply, but I decided to respond here because my inbox is going to overflow in the next couple of days.

[YAKOBU]

Hi everyone

Apologies but I again missed voting on the recent motions. I'm not sure why but I thought I had until Friday after having a quick glance at work. Luckily I wanted to vote Yes to all the motions so it wouldn't have changed anything . I am currently trying to complete year-end at work with my appraisal lined up for next week as well as interviewing candidates for 2 positions. I sorely need them filling as there is too much work for my team at the moment. I stayed at work until 7.30pm tonight and then continued at home until 11.15pm .

I have also taken the drastic step of taking my RTW to work and locking it in a cupboard to stop me playing it until year-end is finished . I am getting serious withdrawal symptoms and need to pop onto the org now and again to get a small fix .

[Death the destroyer of worlds]

Good luck with the appraisal next week, YAKOBU.
I know how it feels, already overworked two nights this week till 22:30, deadlines coming up on the 20th (which means everything should be finished by monday which has about as much chance of happening as a snowstorm in hell) and I was smart enough to get myself elected first consul