It's a tight election so far - I make it 10 influence-adjusted votes for each of the three candidates! We don't have any contingencies for a tied vote - I'm inclined to let actual (none-influenced adjusted) votes be the tie breaker in such a case.
Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
It's a tight election so far - I make it 10 influence-adjusted votes for each of the three candidates! We don't have any contingencies for a tied vote - I'm inclined to let actual (none-influenced adjusted) votes be the tie breaker in such a case.
Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
Hmm.. I'd like to join this as a player in the 'lower level' ?!
If I'm allowed in though, are all the rules and things needed to be in written in the second post? Thanks.
"Cry, the beloved country, for the unborn child that is the inheritor of our fear. Let him not love the earth too deeply. Let him not laugh too gladly when the water runs through his fingers, nor stand too silent when the setting sun makes red the veld with fire. Let him not be moved when the birds of his land are singing, nor give too much of his heart to a mountain or a valley. For fear will rob him of all if he gives too much."
Cry, the Beloved Country by Alan Paton.
Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
Welcome x-dANGEr!Originally Posted by x-dANGEr
Yes, the second post has pretty much everything. We're making some stuff up as we go along but the key points are in that post.
Being in the Lower House requires that you install the mod as detailed in the second post. I wonder if you could do that and then post back here, at which point, I'll assign you an avatar? I'll probably have to give you the one I just assigned to Zomby_woof, so before I disappoint him, I want to make sure you can get the mod working. Some others have had problems.
In the meantime, you can vote in the elections and on the 270 motions. The polls are only open for a day, then next First Consul will play for 20 turns.
Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
Phew.. That was a long 6 hours DL festival.
At all costs, am getting my CDs this evening, so I can reply to you for sure tomorrow.
Though, I need some clarifications, like:
It says to install the naval mod, I need to install 1.3, then 1.5 and after that the Platinum mod, the it. Is 1.3 a necessity?
And, I can make some use of the Roman Armies rules clarification.. Like, what do you mean with allied troops (Auxiliaries)?
Thanks.
"Cry, the beloved country, for the unborn child that is the inheritor of our fear. Let him not love the earth too deeply. Let him not laugh too gladly when the water runs through his fingers, nor stand too silent when the setting sun makes red the veld with fire. Let him not be moved when the birds of his land are singing, nor give too much of his heart to a mountain or a valley. For fear will rob him of all if he gives too much."
Cry, the Beloved Country by Alan Paton.
Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
Yes, I believe it is.
One of the nice things about RTR is that each faction has so called AOR (area of recruitment?) troops that it can recruit - they are local troops that are available to recruit before a captured settlement is fully assimilated[1]. At the moment, we only have Italian AOR troops available- decent spearmen, swordsmen, skirmishers and cavalry. Now we have some Gaulish settlements, we will eventually be able to recruit Gaulish troops, including ultimately some Gaulish auxiliaries proper. In Sicily, we may eventually get some Libyan spearmen. IIRC, there are some regions where you can't recruit any allied troops.And, I can make some use of the Roman Armies rules clarification.. Like, what do you mean with allied troops (Auxiliaries)?
Mercenaries would also count as allied troops, although some of these are very expensive.
If you look in the Senate library you will see some examples of armies that broadly follow our house rules.
[1]Assimilation is modelled by building auxilia buildings: IIRC it goes
Auxilia 1 (no troops)
=> Auxilia 2 (basic AOR troops)
=> Auxilia 3 (all AOR troops)
=> Provincial governorship (all AOR troops + basic core troops)
=> Roman citizenship (all troops)
The whole process takes time and in practice means that you can't immediately recruit in conquered areas, slowing down player expansion.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
Marian Reforms – we should try to mod it so it doesn’t appear too early. They normally do and mean the Romans start fielding uber units before the other factions get a look in…..however, those are in normal games and not the slow paced PBM we’re constructing here…
….on that note, like others I’m purely RP’ing my character. I don’t have “traits” though so I’m having to just think of they mind-set of the Spy.
Quite easy as I LRP a Drow throughout the year in a fest system….so I’m quite used to the evil/sneaky/underhand characterisation.
Just to say that my character has been pressing for expansion in certain key areas since the start – Cisalpine Gaul for example from the start and more recently Carthage – he has his own reasons for this and I’ve actually considered a long-term agenda which is not apparent to the other players as yet (assuming he survives Africa!).
In Character he’s appalled at the cautious stand of the Senate, in particular this session (have a post pending about that), but OOC I understand that we may be deliberately hamstringing ourselves in order to make a more interesting game in the long run.
I’m very happy with the way the players are RP’ing the campaign via the Senate and I’m pretty certain that we wouldn’t play our own campaigns in this manner – myself included. We’d certainly be much more like Shifty suggests and expand on multiple fronts early on…but not in this game.
We’ve got to justify any expansion with in-game terms, and I for one think that’s just fantastic!
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
Welcome x-dANGEr,
I can confirm 1.3 is a necessary step in the patching process. 1.2 is not required, but HIGHLY recommended.
As to the Marian reforms, I am not inclined one way or the other and will go with the majority.
It is a point to note that the marian reforms also cause changes for most of the non-roman factions. Many of them will be able to recruit legion-like units as well and that can get nasty. One of my campaigns I was very overextended, reforms happened and several turns later my hastati were getting slaughtered by Pontus legionaire-clones. Took me 25 turns to get my first legionaires to the front. My pre-reform armies had been decimated by the computer in the meantime
Technical note : the next version of the M&N mod might not be savegame compatible as it will include the cognomen mod. Anyone who thinks about joining the lower house eventually may want to download the M&N mod soon. The good news is that RTR PE 1.6 will most likely be a 200 MB download instead of a 450 MB download. RTR PE 1.4 wasn't compressed.
Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
So you're saying I need to DL more things. Links, please?Welcome x-dANGEr,
I can confirm 1.3 is a necessary step in the patching process. 1.2 is not required, but HIGHLY recommended.
As to the Marian reforms, I am not inclined one way or the other and will go with the majority.
It is a point to note that the marian reforms also cause changes for most of the non-roman factions. Many of them will be able to recruit legion-like units as well and that can get nasty. One of my campaigns I was very overextended, reforms happened and several turns later my hastati were getting slaughtered by Pontus legionaire-clones. Took me 25 turns to get my first legionaires to the front. My pre-reform armies had been decimated by the computer in the meantime
Technical note : the next version of the M&N mod might not be savegame compatible as it will include the cognomen mod. Anyone who thinks about joining the lower house eventually may want to download the M&N mod soon. The good news is that RTR PE 1.6 will most likely be a 200 MB download instead of a 450 MB download. RTR PE 1.4 wasn't compressed.
I've DL-ed:
RTR Platinum 1.4
RTR patch to 1.5
Naval Mod
Map fix
Patch 1.3
Patch 1.5
All ready to install on RTW as soon as I get it. Do I need anything else?
Thanks again :) (And sorry for being very-newbie-ish - My first try with RTR)
EDIT:
Why don't we make a Usergroup for The Will of the Senate PBM? Anyone who joins the PBM will join the group, and that's just about it. Better yet, each PMB campaign makes it's own group, and we turn the Throne Room to a gallery, where you see information bout groups, and by that decide to join them or not. Each group can only has one thread where it described how the group is working, how active is it and how fun is it. Any thoughts?
Last edited by x-dANGEr; 06-15-2006 at 11:02.
"Cry, the beloved country, for the unborn child that is the inheritor of our fear. Let him not love the earth too deeply. Let him not laugh too gladly when the water runs through his fingers, nor stand too silent when the setting sun makes red the veld with fire. Let him not be moved when the birds of his land are singing, nor give too much of his heart to a mountain or a valley. For fear will rob him of all if he gives too much."
Cry, the Beloved Country by Alan Paton.
Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread
Shifty, all the things you say about what we could do are true. But then, blitzing the map would mean the game would be over after 4 or 5 consuls. As we are atm, this PBEM has got more people involved and kept more people involved than any other, and I've been doing these from the beginning.
I, like Tincow & DDW am trying to RP as a Roman, fearful of expansion and foreign adventures. As for the 10,000 denarii giving the AI an advantage, well they need all the help they can get, right? My most fun playing TW games has been when its got really difficult, when the game stretches me & I'm hanging on.
But everyone is different, and like others have said, if and when you get elected Consul, you'll be able to play it your style
As for the Marian reforms, I find they always come wayyyyyy to early, like 100+ years. I wouldn't be sorry to not see them till the 2nd century BC.
Finally, I will be going away Friday morning, not coming back till Monday evening, so can who-ever is Consul make sure I'm nice and safe in some behind-the-lines fort, thanks.
"I request permanent reassignment to the Gallic frontier. Nay, I demand reassignment. Perhaps it is improper to say so, but I refuse to fight against the Greeks or Macedonians any more. Give my command to another, for I cannot, I will not, lead an army into battle against a civilized nation so long as the Gauls survive. I am not the young man I once was, but I swear before Jupiter Optimus Maximus that I shall see a world without Gauls before I take my final breath."
Senator Augustus Verginius
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